Enviromesh

[thomasb]

I did a search on here for past references to the use of enviromesh and found Kays mentioned as a possible source for which to purchase it from.
I have searched the Kays website (and BTW the website is much more userfriendly from what it was a year or so ago) and they speak about Kays Insert Control Viromesh. The link to this as shown below.
https://secure.mmm.co.uk/cgi-bin/site-editor.pl/14/-ecommerce?action=item;item=VIROMESH2;eid=302512

Is this the same material that others refer to as Enviromesh?
Furthermore, which width material (1.2, 1.5, 2m etc) has users found the most convenient to use for covering such veg as carrots, cauliflowers etc.

Thanking you all in advance for your replies.
Thomas

[thomasb]

[redimp]

Root Fly, Green Fly, White Fly, Black Fly, Aphids and Thrips - if it keeps those out it must be pretty similar but it is the size of the holes that will be key.  With regards to widths etc - it depends on the width of your beds and the height of the crops but my guide is as big as I can afford.

[tim]

This was what I thought - http://www.allotments4all.co.uk/yabbse/index.php/topic,14323.msg138035.html#msg138035

Width? Remember to allow the full height of the plants covered so that it can stay on for the whole season.

[blight]

the stuff i use is 2 meters wide. my beds are 1.20 wide.  i use it for carrots and leeks. as the leeks  grow taller during september (late varieties)  they tend to lift off the netting. but by then the onion fly is no longer laying eggs.

[Jesse]

Thanks for that information Tim, I really need to get some for this next year. This year I used fleece but it got torn by the wind and foxes.

[wardy]

I've just bought some of this to replace my fleece which blew away.  this is very finely knit so is not holey like a netting.  It's heavier duty than fleece so won't easily blow away.  I got mine from Fothergills  :)

[Jesse]

Wardy, is it tougher in the sense that does it tear less easily than fleece?

[wardy]

Yes, very much so.  I don't think it would tear, it seems very strong. 

[Jesse]

Thanks Wardy, that's what I wanted to hear :)

[wardy]

I just bought a bit to see what it was like.  it only cost me £3.49 but I think it will be what I'm looking for. Fleece just seems too flimsy for the hurly burly of the lotty.  Mine was just like damp bog paper  :)  I gave up in the end trying to fleece my carrots etc so they just had to fend for themselves.  i grew onions in with them and they were fine  :)  I wanted the mesh for my cabbages which got eaten and are getting eaten by pigeons

[lorna]

Wardy. What is bog paper? Is it a new thing for gardens and allotments? Sorry Wardy (and others) just in a silly happy mood.

[wardy]

Good Lorna.  See you in the shed  ;D

[Derekthefox]

Bog paper? Isnt that squares of newspaper, tied onto a loop of string?

Sorry, I am in a silly mood too ...

[tim]

Lorna - it's the stuff you take off the rolls that everyone seems to grow seeds in!!

Mesh - almost indestructible. Much heavier than dry fleece but lighter than wet fleece.

[lorna]

Thanks Tim. One is never too old to learn :) Hope you had a great Christmas.

[undercarriage plan]

Love my mesh, wonderful stuff.. Had excellent crops of celery and cauliflowers with it, kept all nasties off. Couldn't get on with fleece, it's so flimsy and doesn't do as it is told..

[Jesse]

but it's not as bad as that netting I used this year :o

[undercarriage plan]

Scuse me for asking, but were the holes too big? I use netting over the other stuff, but it has quite small holes...

[amphibian]

I just bought a bit to see what it was like.  it only cost me £3.49 but I think it will be what I'm looking for. Fleece just seems too flimsy for the hurly burly of the lotty.  Mine was just like damp bog paper  :)  I gave up in the end trying to fleece my carrots etc so they just had to fend for themselves.  i grew onions in with them and they were fine  :)  I wanted the mesh for my cabbages which got eaten and are getting eaten by pigeons

Have I just got lucky, but my fleece has held up so far, not a tear in sight. It has survived hail, downpores. gales and now snow.

[wardy]

I think you probably get what you pay for.  Mine fleece was from Wilko and it's been a load of rubbish  ;D