What's on my garlic?

Started by lee79, April 06, 2008, 20:18:19

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lee79

Hi

Just today checked on my garlic.  I noticed some white/creamy colouring around the garlic/soil.  Having looked in more detail this was also around the clove as well.

What could it be, and can I get rid of it with little or no ill effects to my garlic?

Many thanks

Lee

lee79


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I have not experienced white rot so not really sure how it presents itself. There will be a lot of people here who can give you advice........sorry I cant be more helpful
I was born with nothing and have most of it left.

redimp

I have never had it on the surface. It always presents as a white fluffy yucky stuff around the root area.  The only visible sign is wilting in my experience.  Anyways, I hope for your sake it ain't.
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lee79

Quote from: redclanger on April 06, 2008, 21:08:39
I have never had it on the surface. It always presents as a white fluffy yucky stuff around the root area.  The only visible sign is wilting in my experience.  Anyways, I hope for your sake it ain't.

It's not actually on the surface, it's just that you can see it on the growing leaves, at soil level.  Then, on closer inspection, it's all around the clove.  It's sort of mouldy looking.

Cheers

Lee

davyw1

A photo of on pulled showing the roots would be ideal, but i am betting on white rot. Is the Garlic shop bought ?.
When you wake up on a morning say "good morning world" and be grateful

DAVY

goodlife

Hmm...have you had this problem with other onion family?...
"...Dense fluffy white fungal growth appears around the base of the bulb..bulb start to rot.."
=White rot....
Treatment..."There is no chemical control available. Remove and burn all infected plants and do not grow onions or related plants on the same soil for at least 8 years..."
Let's hope that it is not white rot as it is really difficult fungi to get rid of..there is no treatment and it can last in soil 7+ yrs.
If this was first time for you, lets hope that after first attack if you keep that patch onion free it doesnt set it's "foot" permanently in...

Where did you get your cloves from? ..as this is one of the reasons that planting eg. supermarket cloves are not recommended as they are not "clean stock"..
I'm not trying to preach...  :-X

Hopefully it is not white rot...but even if it is..You can still grow garlic etc. even in containers...
but if any of other areas are not affected with this be careful that you do not transfer the  problem further...eg. clean the tools before using on other areas..gloves!!
Let us know how things progress..and if any other of the onion family get it...
Fingers grossed they do not....

tim

Yes - photo??

As said - raised beds have saved the day for me.

BAK

may be wrong but it sounds a bit early for white rot.

It could be basal rot. Search web for info - here is one link

http://www.assuredproduce.co.uk/resources/000/158/228/Garlic_00053_06.pdf

lee79

Thanks so far for the help.

I got the garlic from Wilko's, some weeks back.

At the moment they are in a large container, so hopefuuly if it is the worse case scenario there's no further contamination.

Photo's- will def get some over the next few days.

Thanks

Lee

davyw1

  As you have grown the Garlic in containers then if it is white rot you have limited the damage. Do not use any of the tools you have used around the Garlic anywhere else without sterilizing them first.

http://www.garlic-central.com/disease.html
When you wake up on a morning say "good morning world" and be grateful

DAVY

goodlife

Phewww!!!..containers...Now you are telling us,,,great!..No damage done then... :)

Tee Gee

Having read the advice from the others I am a bit stumped as well.

Just a thought!! You mentioned 'containers' ....they are not waterlogged are they?

This can sometimes result in algae/lichen forming.........as I said its just a thought!!

goodlife

It is wrong  time of the season for white rot outdoors, but if your is indoors...maybe...
I bet you haven't got the bag that you bought your garlic in....if you have...does it say that it comes from the desease free stock?...
If you you have the bag..and it does state it...take your garlic and get you money back... ;)...with right bo...ng.."cough"...telling off..

lee79

Quote from: Tee Gee on April 07, 2008, 12:39:30
Having read the advice from the others I am a bit stumped as well.

Just a thought!! You mentioned 'containers' ....they are not waterlogged are they?

This can sometimes result in algae/lichen forming.........as I said its just a thought!!

Think they may have been water logged, what with the weather we've been having.  Is the algae/lichen less of a problem??

Lee

lee79

Quote from: goodlife on April 07, 2008, 12:58:09
It is wrong  time of the season for white rot outdoors, but if your is indoors...maybe...
I bet you haven't got the bag that you bought your garlic in....if you have...does it say that it comes from the desease free stock?...
If you you have the bag..and it does state it...take your garlic and get you money back... ;)...with right bo...ng.."cough"...telling off..

Think I've still got the package, will look today when I go to take pics.

Cheers

Lee

goodlife

"Think they may have been water logged, what with the weather we've been having.  Is the algae/lichen less of a problem??"

...waterlogging does kill but it is not like desease...
As a result of the over wet soil or compost you would get greenish tinge over the surface which after while would start turn into moss or lichen growth....
In warm greenhouse algae growth can to happen on compost  even without it being waterlogged...rainwater has lots of algae spores.
Algae/lichen is not problem for plants but they may indicate for underlying probles eg. waterlogging...

lee79

Got the photo's, but to honest, think they are dead.  On closer inspection I seem to remember foliage growing, none now.  Also, there seems to be no roots.

http://i125.photobucket.com/albums/p52/lee197979/photo003.jpg

http://i125.photobucket.com/albums/p52/lee197979/photo002.jpg

and

http://i125.photobucket.com/albums/p52/lee197979/100_0650.jpg

Not fantastic, but you can make out the (now) green colouring.

Lee

Tee Gee

Quotebut to honest, think they are dead

I would tend yto agree but;

If you gently squeeze the bulb what does it feel like?

Squishy?, ooze liquid?  Soft ? Firm/hard?

springbok

Complete novice to me, but I had mould like that on my sweetpea bases.

Turned out I was overwatering them and they were a bit water logged.

Changed the pots, and it sorted the problem out.


lee79

Quote from: Tee Gee on April 07, 2008, 16:31:33
Quotebut to honest, think they are dead

I would tend yto agree but;

If you gently squeeze the bulb what does it feel like?

Squishy?, ooze liquid?  Soft ? Firm/hard?

Like a bag of liquid.

Lee

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