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THATS WHAT IVE BEEN TOLD..SO I
TRIED ORGANIC THIS SEASON..RESULT.... WORSE YEAR EVER

JTW

What did you use instead?

chicken pellets...there rubbish!!  more fiz in a bottle of TIZER

so what's wrong with using manure?

What was wrong with Fish Blood and Bone the organic equivalent to growmore

i had 2 tubs of chick sh*t in the shed....i did use manure 4 years old

QuoteWhat was wrong with Fish Blood and Bone

Nothing wrong with fish, blood & bone or dried blood but if you are on a site with foxes expect the b...#@$ to dig holes everywhere.

well I used chicken pellets, and I thought they were Rocket Fuel. but I also used Growmore

rhubarb the only thing i had lift off  with   was my sprouts

that's sprouts for you. The Devil's Vegetable

If you use Growmore you'll get better yields.  If you want better yields use Growmore.

The agro-chemical revolution more than doubled agricultural output, but at a cost.  You can't have it both ways.

unwashed

growmore is king   pity i never used it this year
stuff the organic


aka...jtw

It's not Organic... but as I'm growing to eat, not get soil association certificate I use a bit now and then... I can handle it!!!!  :-X

I bought 2 tubs of chicken pellets  but I also had to suppliment it with growmore to get a result

The title of this thread is very amusing, it's as if folk have just realised that 'artificials' aren't 'organic'.
Q. where have they been for last few years? LOL
(soil association member here, and I've  got 'tickets' in organic hortic and food production)
where is the 'smug' smiley emoticon?

I`ve never worried about the `organic` ticket. Growmore tastes the same to a plant as BFB.

One is slower releasing than the other but where is BFB sourced??

You are damned either way.

Feed the soil,make compost and try not to use persistent chemicals/pesticides.

I'm with you. I try to keep chemicals to a minimum but will resort where I think appropriate (like getting rid of cabbage white caterpillars if they get too infested)

What's organic anyway - you can ship stuff round the workd and claim it's organic

Quote from: tonybloke on September 07, 2009, 11:25:52
The title of this thread is very amusing, it's as if folk have just realised that 'artificials' aren't 'organic'.
Q. where have they been for last few years? LOL

I think a lot of people are getting confused with organic and home grown. To be organic you have to be very strict and careful with everything you  buy or fertilise with, Homegrown is what it says on the box. Something you have grown yourself using whatever fertiliser you want. I do not know if organic is as tasty as homegrown as I have never been inclined to regiment myself to the strict standards. ( Although I do hear they can move the goalposts when it suits).

Growmore has been around for years, I find it makes my soil puggy, so I prefer manure. Chicken pellets cannot surely be called organic as they must come from some very dubious scources.

yes there should be a smug icon, as I need one for doing it the easy way with tasty results

I use a combo of manure, council black soil improver, fish blood and bone, manure 'tea' as a feed over summer and lime in winter.  Manure, manure tea and council stuff are all free and fish blood and bone and lime inexpensive.  Wouldnt do it any other way - to my mind the manure conditions and adds humus in a way that growmore never could.  You do have to cart it about I guess!?!?  The only drawback as far as I can see.

I reckon I spend 40% time at the plot improving the soil, 20% picking, 10% pruning, 10% sowing, 5% watering and the rest on projects.  Look after the soil, not the plant is my motto!

I use chicken pellets, never had a problem with yield.

Maybe soil type makes a difference, I dunno.