Allotments 4 All

Mine arived today too! Ohhhhhhhhhh  I LOVES it when the seeds start to come through my letterbox! ;D

Just looked at the website & they do look good but what does determinate or indeterminate mean when applied to tomatoes?

determinate (bush) = has a determined height - bush variety, sideshoots don't need pinching out, only needs light support if at all
indeterminate (cordon) = will grow forever to a great height, sideshoots need pinching out and plant needs support

I spent 25 years of my gardening life thinking it was intermediate :-[ ::)

Thank you SS.  Another gardening mystery solved! ???

Yes, Barnowl - & things change. Like T&M are back to independence.

As to the small family ones, one can find a dozen or so but, of course, none have the variety & printing capability of the big boys.

Whatever ones views , this is valid...??

"Along with the growth in the allotment movement, and the increasing popularity of gardening, there have emerged many small independent seed companies. Many of these are active in seed conservation and encouraging diversity. They often offer organic and open pollinated varieties of seeds as opposed to hybrids. Many of these varieties are heirloom varieties. The use of old varieties will continue to maintain diversity in the horticultural gene pool. There is a good case for amateur gardeners to use older (heirloom) varieties as the modern seed types are often the same as those grown by commercial producers, and so characteristics which are useful to them (e.g. vegetables ripening at the same time) may be unsuited to home growing"

Although not Italian the website for Plants of Distinction is now open...
www.plantsofdistinction.co.uk they have about two hundred different tomatoes on offer, most with colour pics.... my wife says I have been drooling on the keyboard...
;D

Some of the little people. E&OE.

Tuckers
Victoriana
Simpsons
Real Seeds
Nicky's Seeds
Chillies Galore
Mr Seeds
Medwyn Williams
Victory?

etc, etc.