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I originally come from the Black Country where accents used to be so localised (they are being diluted now people are more mobile) that when I was young, people from my area had trouble understanding people who lived only five or six miles away. :D

Ah dinnae ken whit ye are oan aboot Jags, and when is that bear gonnae stop lowpin' aboot like an ejeet!!!

See whit I mean fowks, its no english.....  its lowland scots, the mither tongue.

I don't know what you are on about Jags,and when is that bear going to stop jumping about like an idiot?

See what I mean folks,it's not English....  it's lowland Scots,the mother tongue.


Hows that?!

I blame the vikings Heldi  ;D ;D

Quote from: Carol on February 09, 2006, 17:32:52
Ah dinnae ken whit ye are oan aboot Jags, and when is that bear gonnae stop lowpin' aboot like an ejeet!!!

See whit I mean fowks, its no english.....  its lowland scots, the mither tongue.

Ah but it is a fact that what is known as received English (aka the Queen's English) is based upon East Midland pronunciation and vocabulary. ;)

That'll be your Oxford English then???? ;D ;D ;D ;D

This is well worth a look on the BBC website

http://www.bbc.co.uk/voices/wil/

I gre up in East Oxford, and what we spoke wasn't anything like 'recieved English'; for one thing, we dropped all our H's, which always used to get me in trouble. At the timne, there was no real contact between the working class areas, where most people worked at the car factory in Cowley, and North Oxford, which was the posh end, dominated by the University, and where H's weren't dropped. It's all been gentrified since I left in the early 70's, and I don't know what the situation with H's is now.

That's right Robert. I was in Oxford in the early 70's. Local folk spoke with a pronounced accent and a great deal of dialect but so-called "Oxford English" was the neutral albeit very southern England mode of English endemic in the university and north oxford.

Quite tough for a mere Glaswegian! :o :o

Robert, GWARC,

Have to say one does not often pop into Hoxford these days on account of the hideous one way system!

(tongue in cheek guys, please!)


this site is cute:-

www.phrases.org.uk

In fact, had to go to the foot of our stairs!

CLx

God yes ! My daughter and husband and sprogs have just left Oxford after 15 years  for Devon. While it's further from Edinburgh we anticipate being able to park on arrival.

On the other hand ... we can understand Oxford folk .... (now)   Devon!!!!!! Aaargh. :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o

You're not intended to be able to find your way through Oxford; they change the system regularly. The centre is totally unsuitable for heavy traffic anyway, so I can well understand why. I moved to Cornwall in 1979, and it was a while before I could really understand the local dialect.

Really interesting thread.  I somehow don't think "hinny" is the same as "hen" which is not quite as attractive sounding but I do think the true Geordie accent is from Nordic influences.   "Am Gannin hame",  "I'm going home", is supposed to very close to a Norwegian equivilent.   :) busy_lizzie

Can't comment on the Geordie/Nordic but can say that I'm sure you guys who've emigrated to Devon and Cornwall  from Oxford will have a lot more scope for exploration of language there. (AND better road routes!)

Maybe you arrived as 'emmets'.....

Love being in Cornwall every summer, as as Tim prompted earlier, there lies the roots of our east coast Us cousins way of talking.

CLx

PS re Geordie, and I'm sure there are others, this is a bit basic, but
http://www.bbc.co.uk/insideout/northeast/series7/geordie_dialect.shtml

BL.   As you know the Borders is near you in the N.E.  and we would say  'I am gaun hame'  or in my case now  ' I am gaun tae bed'   

Goodnight!!!!

Thanks for that CL, very informative, and I am also "gannin to me bed now" Carol, Nighty night!  ;D

Growing up in the west of Scotland, I well remember the habit of turning the order round in sentences, for instance, "Awfy cauld, gettin'" Also we use 'but' at the end of phrases, meaning 'though' or 'mind you' (as well as 'but'!), as in: 'Yesterday wis fine - awfy cauld the-day, but'.

Right, that's me done - ah'm away tae ma scratcher noo.

;D

Quote from: Robert_Brenchley on February 09, 2006, 19:31:56
I gre up in East Oxford, and what we spoke wasn't anything like 'recieved English'; for one thing, we dropped all our H's, which always used to get me in trouble. At the timne, there was no real contact between the working class areas, where most people worked at the car factory in Cowley, and North Oxford, which was the posh end, dominated by the University, and where H's weren't dropped. It's all been gentrified since I left in the early 70's, and I don't know what the situation with H's is now.

We still say aaych.