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Started by jo9919, July 01, 2008, 22:41:13

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Robert_Brenchley

Not shallots. They're grown from the same sets as my maincrop onions. I do have some shallot sets, so I'll be trying to grow spring onions from them a bit later in the year.

Robert_Brenchley


tim

I'm catching up - they just look like Shallots - all bulb. Or can you use the stem? Whichever, great to have some fresh stuff, but not the same flavour.

Quite often, bought onions sprout & the sprouts are quite useful to have in the freezer.
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You were lucky to have some sets over - not cheap.

Robert_Brenchley

I use the lot. I bought sets from a different source this year, and I suspect they were smaller; I got 2 kg rather than 3, and still ended up with a load of spares.

ceres

Great suggestion Robert!  I had a spare net of onion sets in the shed and have just dibbed them in for spring onions.

davyw1

I grow what i was told are Russian onions, i was given a bunch a few years ago the bunch turned out like this[attachment=1]

Spot the difference Shallots and Russian onions[attachment=2]

End result for the Russian onions, the shallots got captured on the way home[attachment=3]
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DAVY

tim

Great - but certainly no Shallots there!

jo9919

Thanks for your replies.

OK, I'm at a total loss now. My spring onions were planted from seed, White Lisbon. So, you can actually sow spring onions from sets? Do they have a better 'bulb' to them?

I don't want huge onions to cook with, just something to go in my cheese sarnies  :P

Sorry, daft questions I presume, novice here  ::)

Jo.

davyw1

Quote from: tim on July 04, 2008, 19:26:43
Great - but certainly no Shallots there!
The bottom bunch is Shallots Tim
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davyw1

Quote from: jo9919 on July 04, 2008, 19:34:47
Thanks for your replies.

OK, I'm at a total loss now. My spring onions were planted from seed, White Lisbon. So, you can actually sow spring onions from sets? Do they have a better 'bulb' to them?

I don't want huge onions to cook with, just something to go in my cheese sarnies  :P

Sorry, daft questions I presume, novice here  ::)

Jo.
JO TEE GEE and myself had a discussion on the Russian Onions and we concluded they are Welsh Onions, i called them Russian Onions cos they rushed all over the garden.
To stop your confusion.
SPRING ONION, Are grown from seed.
SHALLOTS,            Are grown from sets
WELSH ONION.    Are grown from transplants, you dig up a bunch take off what         you want and put back what you dont want to grow on and multiply
When you wake up on a morning say "good morning world" and be grateful

DAVY

jo9919

Quote from: davyw1 on July 04, 2008, 19:55:50
Quote from: jo9919 on July 04, 2008, 19:34:47
Thanks for your replies.

OK, I'm at a total loss now. My spring onions were planted from seed, White Lisbon. So, you can actually sow spring onions from sets? Do they have a better 'bulb' to them?

I don't want huge onions to cook with, just something to go in my cheese sarnies  :P

Sorry, daft questions I presume, novice here  ::)

Jo.
JO TEE GEE and myself had a discussion on the Russian Onions and we concluded they are Welsh Onions, i called them Russian Onions cos they rushed all over the garden.
To stop your confusion.
SPRING ONION, Are grown from seed.
SHALLOTS,            Are grown from sets
WELSH ONION.    Are grown from transplants, you dig up a bunch take off what         you want and put back what you dont want to grow on and multiply

Thanks for clarifying that for me.

So....back to my original question then, spring onions grown from seed, do they bulb up at all? My White Lisbon seem to have a bit of white at the bottom but aren't bulbing. Should I just leave them longer?

Jo.

davyw1

JO, It depends on what Spring Onions you grow, White Lisbon do tend to bulb so dont grow them. I favor the Japanese Bunching onion like Shamoto or Isakura. which dont bulb.
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DAVY

Garden Manager

i grew spring onions for the first time last year - ad in hindsight probably wasnt the best year to start! Anyway they germinated well but grew very slowly. So slowly in fact that from a summer sowing they were still not big enough to use come autumn. I basicaly gave up on them and left them in the ground all winter (no protection). Come the spring i wanted to clear the ground for replanting. The onions were still fine so rather than compost them they were harvested. Too tough for salads but they made a great soup!

The point is that by the time they were harvested they were not much bigger than the size I had expected them to grow to the previous summer. I guess they didnt like the dull wet summer last year.

I am trying them again this year and hoping for a much quicker crop this time. The thing i like about them the most though is, of all the crops I grow they are the most reliable germinating from direct sown seed. Other seed is very hit and miss, but spring onions always seem to come up.

PS: the variety was 'Guardsman' i think .

kt.

Quote from: Garden Apprentice on July 05, 2008, 12:20:33
The thing i like about them the most though is, of all the crops I grow they are the most reliable germinating from direct sown seed. Other seed is very hit and miss, but spring onions always seem to come up.

PS: the variety was 'Guardsman' i think .
I have only ever had one successful year with spring onions, and they were direct sown.  That was on my previous plot - the same year I was clearing it! ???
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davyw1

KT. If you care to venture North along the coast road i could solve growing Spring onions for you. By the carrier bag full.
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DAVY

kt.

Quote from: davyw1 on July 05, 2008, 15:21:50
KT. If you care to venture North along the coast road i could solve growing Spring onions for you. By the carrier bag full.

Would love to, but the distance between us is too great at the moment.  Working away.........   Miles: 2730    Kilometers: 4411
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davyw1

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Quote from: ktlawson on July 05, 2008, 15:31:45
Quote from: davyw1 on July 05, 2008, 15:21:50
KT. If you care to venture North along the coast road i could solve growing Spring onions for you. By the carrier bag full.

Would love to, but the distance between us is too great at the moment.  Working away.........   Miles: 2730    Kilometers: 4411

Sandpit, Just can,t get rid of the flipping things.
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DAVY

tim

Sorry, Davy - thought you meant Shallot Shallots - not Spring Onion Shallots!

davyw1

Tim, I did mean Shallots as in Shallots
[attachment=1]

And not Spring Onions as in Scallions
[attachment=2]
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DAVY

tim

Just LOVE your pictures, but I still see your Shallots as more like Spring Onions than your 'ripe' photo!!

Whichever, I'm sure they are all enjoyed?

davyw1

Quote from: tim on July 05, 2008, 20:17:48
Just LOVE your pictures, but I still see your Shallots as more like Spring Onions than your 'ripe' photo!!

Whichever, I'm sure they are all enjoyed?
I have to agree could be the way i grow them in depth about 4" and back filled as they grow to try and get more white.
When you wake up on a morning say "good morning world" and be grateful

DAVY

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