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Started by Mimi, April 15, 2004, 07:34:38

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tim

#20
April 17, 2004, 11:19:06
It's all beyond me!! I'm only just coping with the in-house system. = Tim

tim

#20
April 17, 2004, 11:19:06

jethro

#21
April 17, 2004, 13:51:47
Would love to have a go but i've just mastered the abacus i'm afraid. Next is a calculator  :-\  so i'll see you lot in 2010  :D.

Gardengirl

#22
April 17, 2004, 14:10:50
Any tips would be greatly appreciated Dan. :)
Happy gardening all...........Pat

Garden Manager

#23
April 17, 2004, 21:44:44
Thans all the same Eric I am sure we all appreciate your efforts  :)

PS I have thought of a couple of things to try myself and will let you know if it works

Garden Manager

#24
April 17, 2004, 21:47:28
Quote from: Admin aka Dan on April 17, 2004, 10:38:43
Nearly everyone who conects to the internet via an ISP (such as blueyonder, ntl, freeserve etc) get web space.

This can be used to put pictures on - it is quite easy to do once you get the hang of it - normally using FTP software.

It would be slightly different for each ISP, but we could try to get together some hints and tips - any interest ?

Cheers

Dan

Oh yes dan, great!

I have often looked at AOLs free hosting but never had the courage to try it out. I get a few MBs free with the membership so should be enough for a few pics etc.

gavin

#25
April 18, 2004, 00:23:55 Last Edit: April 18, 2004, 19:27:21 by gavin
I'll have a go at getting this started - but once again, I need the help of the "cr*p-busters" among us, to iron out the many wrinkles!


Step 1 - the "holder file".

1.1 - Right click on your desktop, choose "new", and "folder" - and make a folder; let's call it webpics.

1.2 - Click Start, then Run;  enter notepad, and then "OK"

Now type in (or copy and paste)

Quote
<html>

<head>
<title>My web pictures</title>
</head>

<body>


</body>
</html>


1.3 - Save this file in your "webpics" folder - call it index.html (no capitalisation!).



Step 2 - the photos you want

Save a copy of the photos you want to use in your "webpics" folder as a .jpg file.  A few fiddly tricks and hintsto save frustration later.

- Use recognisable short names, like plot1.jpg, pumpkin1.jpg, pumpkin2.jpg, pumpkin3.jpg - etc
- remember the .jpg at the end of the file name
- don't use capital letters in the file names!  Yes, I know it sounds silly - but it is a bit of good practice which may avoid all sorts of frustration later on!


Step 3 - Linking your photos to the "holder file", index.html

3.1 - Open Notepad again, and open your index.html file in the "webpics" folder

3.2 - For each photo you want to add, add the extra line in the "body" section, including the appropriate photo file name within "".

Quote
<html>

<head>
<title>My web pictures</title>
</head>

<body>

<img src="plot1.jpg" border="0">
<img src="pumpkin1.jpg" border="0">
<img src="pumpkin2.jpg" border="0">
<img src="pumpkin3.jpg" border="0">

</body>
</html>

SPELLCHECK - go back and check that you have included all the < and  > brackets;  now check you've included all the slashes - the /'s; and now check all the ""s.


3.3 - Save the file, and close Notepad

3.4 - now, just for fun, click on index.html in your webpics folder - and your browser SHOULD open up, and display your first webpage!  It won't be beautiful - but your photos should be!  (and by now you may have the bug - start learning a bit more HTML?)


Step 4 - Uploading the file to your free web-space - the quick, dirty, easy, and freest way of all! :) :) :)

4.1 - You need some information from/for your ISP.   I had a look at a couple of ISPs; the information can be found - don't be put off by the huge amounts of info you don't need at the moment.

A - the address your ISP uses to store your files, for the FTP transfer programme (it will be somewhere in the help section - the address you are looking for will be something (?) like uploads.webspace.ISPname.net).

B - your user ID and your password, from the initial connection information you got from your ISP;  you can also see it in your dial-up window.


4.2 - Connect to the internet, and open Internet Explorer.

  • Enter in the address box ftp://and the address at A  (eg ftp://uploads.webspace.isp.net/)
  • Click on File, Log-in, and enter the user ID and password from B.
  • Click "Save Password", and "Log-in"
You now have a wonderful blank space in your browser page - I hope!


4.3 - transfer

  • Now reduce your browser window, and adjust its size to fill about half your screen.
  • Open your webpics folder in My Computer, or Windows Explorer - so that you can see the list of files in the folder
  • Select all the files you want to transfer - with Shift and Click, or Ctrl and Click
  • Now, click and drag your chosen files to your empty browser window.  Simple as that.
Yup - you've just done a simple FTP file transfer!  Without ANY fancy bits of kit! :) :) :)


4.4 - Now go back to the help pages for your ISP, and somewhere you will find what http address you need, so you can find your site (and link the photos to A4A - eg mine is http://keirg.freeserve.co.uk.

Go on - type the right http address;  are you on?  Has it worked?  


Step 5 - If all has gone well, you now have a very basic page on the web!   It is crude, but will work as a "holder" for your photos that you want to link to A4A  (as in the post much further up this thread).

6.1  To add more pics, just copy the new photo to your webpics folder, open Notepad, and add another <img src="pumpkin3.jpg" border="0"> line.

6.2  To remove pics, just delete the relevant <img src="pumpkin3.jpg" border="0"> line, and delete the photo from the "webpics" folder.

And then use the same FTP trick in Internet Explorer to upload your new index.html file and new photos to your webspace.  You can also delete unwanted files from your ISP server from the same ftp page!


Fiddly?  Yes, it is the first time - but you are setting up a "system".  maintaining your photo page and updating it, is very quick and easy afterwards.  

Go on - have a go!  And tell me where it doesn't work, please!

Good luck - Gavin

Garden Manager

#26
April 18, 2004, 10:27:20
Gavin,

All Ican say is WOW!!

Didnt realise it could be that straightforward.  I shall certaily be giving it a go.

On behalf of everyone, Thank you  :)

tim

#27
April 18, 2004, 10:27:50
- cor!! = Tim

Mimi

#28
April 18, 2004, 11:13:51
GAVIN, Wow you are a GOD of I.T  I am dead impressed.Just makes me realise that I am even more of an idiot when it comes to computers.  Thanks for your help.  :-* Will just take the next three weeks to sort it out. ;D
Take time to stop and smell the flowers.

The gardener

#29
April 18, 2004, 12:36:08
Try this one;

http://www.photobucket.com/

I haven't tried it, simply because I am already geared up, recieved the address from a good source.

Hope it resolves the HP problem............A


The Gardener

gavin

#30
April 18, 2004, 12:36:58
:) :) :) And once you get the bug, you'll be hooked too - warning!!!

I'll try to work out something better on the FTP bit tonight.

Good luck all!   Gavin

budgiebreeder

#31
April 18, 2004, 13:31:47
oh heck Gavin .I'll give it a whirl if there isnt any other way.But i think it may take me all of the next rainy day.
Earth fills her lap with treasures of her own.

gavin

#32
April 18, 2004, 18:25:25
Don't be put off by the length of my posting, budgiebreeder - it won't take that long at all!  Honest!

But I'm still looking for a simple, clear, friendly (and FREE!) FTP programme.  

All best - Gavin

budgiebreeder

#33
April 18, 2004, 19:25:27
i have joined www.photobucket.com/ but havent managed as yet to xfer it to A4a the pictures are still too large.It seems an ok site,similar to hpphoto.
Earth fills her lap with treasures of her own.

gavin

#34
April 18, 2004, 19:30:13
GOT IT!  Internet Explorer can do the job!  :) :) :) Much easier now - go on, have a try, Budgiebreeder!  :) :) :)

All best - Gavin

Garden Manager

#35
April 18, 2004, 23:59:19 Last Edit: April 19, 2004, 00:00:48 by RichardF
I can certainly vouch for the fact that the setting up with the html is quite easy and does not take much time.

The problem is the bl**dy file transfer (ftp)! grrr!

AOL (my isp) is particularly difficult to run FTP on and get the desired result (seems to bear no relation to gavin's instructions for a start).  I can get stuff to upload but only one pic at a time. Cant seem to select all the pictures in one go.

Does anyone have any experience of FTP on AOL?

If so.. HEEEELLLLPPPPP!!

ina

#36
April 19, 2004, 19:42:27
Oh lordy, too much to read, I just don't have the time or patience to read carefully how to do it all. Actually what I'm saying is I'm lost and just plain don't understand it. I'll just wait and see what happens and hope something I can understand comes along.

Thanks to those who took the time and have the patience to try and explain it all. I'm sure others will be helped by it.

Palustris

#37
April 20, 2004, 18:20:37 Last Edit: April 20, 2004, 18:23:13 by Palustris
For the benefit of penniless folks like myself we have found a method of posting photos on here which is both free and easy. Easier than Hp photo in many ways. Only problem is that you need to get the size of the photo sorted out BEFORE sending it to the halfway house.
With a deep bow of apprecaition and gratitude to Budgebreeder who found the site.
An instruction sheet is available for those who downloaded Photo Manger from HP. Useful also to those who can re-size using their own photo manipulation program.
As you can see from this
Gardening is the great leveller.

Gardengirl

#38
April 20, 2004, 19:26:53
Thank you BB and Eric for the information about photobucket.com.  I have joined but am a little confused ???

I have HP photo manager so can resize my photos before submitting. I created a new album in photobucket, then tried to upload a photo from my resized HP photo album.  Clicked 'submit' and although it said that I had one photo - it also said that my newly created album was empty.

I hope you can understand what I am trying to say - not very clear I know.  Any help greatly appreciated.
Happy gardening all...........Pat

Palustris

#39
April 20, 2004, 19:38:54
Have you been back since and had another look at your Album? I had no problems other than finding the best size for posting on here. 250pixels wide and reduced to 50% on Bucket is the one above. Please try again.
Gardening is the great leveller.
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