Now that Britain is in ecological debt

[MrsKP]

what incentive do you reckon we'll be given to grow our own.

At a guess i would say none !  but don't you think it would be common sense.   ::)

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/sci/tech/4897252.stm

[MrsKP]

[flowerlady]

Consumerism is self gratification.  As you can't take it with you when you go, it would be good to think that folk would like to leave a 'green and pleasant land' for their children.

I wonder how many people EVER stop to think this way? :(

[sarah]

I was pondering the every same thing the other day flowerlady as i walked my children to school watching the parade of huge, immense four by fours crawling along the street beside us.  The idea of taxing these beasts into submision obviously is not wroking.  Sorry but I have a real problem with these huge gas guzzlers inching their way up to the school everyday usually containing one mother and one/two small children.  Then half an hour later they are driving to the supermarket and negotiating the roads whilst talking into mobile phone as they go....Arrrgggghhhh.  And dont get me started on bullbars.  Sorry going off thread slightly, will go and have some camomile tea and calm down.

[mugstar]

Make me a cup too, please. They do my head in!  >:(

Where we are in Glasgow (where the public transport is very good) we get dozens of these shortsighted selfish morons driving one child up from the rich areas outside the south of the city to the private grammar school up the road from us. They pollute and endanger communities to which they contribute nothing - the rich areas are outside the City so their council tax goes to a different council. Why can't they organise a coach or ( :o ) use public transport?

Even our seven year old recognises they're lazy and selfish ... of course that's nowt to do with me ranting on about it all the way to school ... ;D

[MrsKP]

just been passed your front door mugstar on the way to the timber yard, that couldn't incidentally sell me any timber suitable for a greenhouse base ???  ::)

i'm in Hillington having my calming down cuppa tea just now.

;D

[mugstar]

;D

You should see Victoria Road on a school morning though - it's beyond a joke.

[lorna]

I am mostly in agreement but would like to point out that the "monsters" are a boon to disabled people. We bought one (trooper) as Charlie could no longer get in to a normal saloon (too low) . At least he could then get out and about instead of being a prisoner in the house.. I did sell it after Charlie died and now use a normal saloon.

[bennettsleg]

Even our seven year old recognises they're lazy and selfish ... of course that's nowt to do with me ranting on about it all the way to school ... ;D

So, do you walk, or drive? :)

[mugstar]

We walk - our school is literally 3 minutes away. Don't even own a car. ;D

[MrsKP]

I am mostly in agreement but would like to point out that the "monsters" are a boon to disabled people. We bought one (trooper) as Charlie could no longer get in to a normal saloon (too low) . At least he could then get out and about instead of being a prisoner in the house.. I did sell it after Charlie died and now use a normal saloon.

those with a genuine need are exempt from our rath Lorna.  big hugs xx

[sarah]

Absolutely Lorna, I am sorry if I offended you with my mini rant. disabled people should be afforded   whatever means they need to make life easier, especially with regards to getting about. I also dont have a problem with people using four by fours on farms and wherever they are really needed. Its just the school run andthe town centres.  We love you  Lorna  :-*

[mugstar]

those with a genuine need are exempt from our rath Lorna.  big hugs xx

Totally.

[MrsKP]

;D

You should see Victoria Road on a school morning though - it's beyond a joke.

you should be on a No. 55 getting off at ibrox library (which i have to on occasion) ..... it's enough to drive you to ...erm ....... drive (which i do regularly).   :D

[Roy Bham UK]

 ??? Why do 4x4's park on the pavement and cars park on the road? ::)

[Busby]

Can't help thinking that our problems (worldwide) won't be solved until the planet's population gets down to about one billion.

But in the meantime we should, as consumers, recognise the power we have each time we enter a shop. We don't have to buy strawberries in february do we?

Maybe 'modern' housewives would be better off returning to seasonable vegetables, simple cooking and only buying things in paper bags. This would at least be a start.

[katynewbie]

Modern Househusbands would be ok to buy them in February then?

[mugstar]

As long as you drive to Asda/WalMart in your 4x4 and park on the pavement  ;D

[lorna]

Of course I am not offended, you ought to know me by now. Was just making a ickle point ;D ;D

[Busby]

You're splitting hairs Katynewbie.

Nevertheless you are right - Househusbands shouldn't buy strawberries in February either.

That's the important thing.

By the way, and I know I'm old-fashioned, but I still use and act the words 'Ladies First'.

Silly isn't it.

[MrsKP]

i like old-fashioned.  there were standards then.

;D