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Quote from: Baccy Man on September 30, 2009, 18:13:32

Quote from: ACE on September 30, 2009, 11:05:33
The biggest wind up ever! Welsh language, everything in both languages as most cannot understand the so called lingo. Am I right in thinking there is no J in the welsh alphabet.

Can anybody guess which is the most common surname in Wales, yep you got it, Jones, which starts with, yep you got it again J.

There is no J, K, Q, V, X, or Z in the traditional Welsh alphabet but the letter J is borrowed for English words.

The Jones surname was first documented in England, but the Jones surname is more commonly found in Wales because of the anglicisation of the patronymic naming convention e.g. Gwilym ap John ('son of John' in Welsh) to Gwilym Jones.

Hang on - what about the J in John?

It's a typo it should of read "Gwilym ap Sion" the translation was also shortened the literal translation is actually "William son of John".