Growing a Winter Garden

Started by Jeannine, April 13, 2007, 15:40:37

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Jeannine

Since coming back to the Uk 6 years ago I haven't planted a winter garden and would like to this year I am not familiar with  many of the varieties here,and even over there I traded plants with a neighbour so I was never very sure when she started them. The growing season is different too  so I need help.

This what I have come up, can anyone help me with sowing times,planting out etc and any info at all you can give me.

Purple Sprouting Brocc. 
White       "            "
Kales, but I am confused about types.
Cabbages, I know a wee bit, not much.
Cauli,  I know diddly about,
9 Star Perrenial  Brocc  I  also know diddly about
Raab        ditto
Kohl rabi , know about atumn harvest only
Leeks, a bit hot and miss, don't know the types well
Carrots,I used to grow an over wintering one but have forgotten it
Beets                          ditto
Winter lettuce             ditto.

There may be other things I haven't mentioned because I don't know.

I have seeds for just a few of above and  would appreciate variety names so I can go shopping please.

I apologise in advance as this is a big ask so would appreciate any help you can give me.

Thank you XX

Jeannine
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Jeannine

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sally_cinnamon

Jeannine,
I think I have some of those at home in my seed box and I'm pretty sure they're spares - would you like me to send them to you to start you off?  I'll have a look over the weekend and let you know the types so you can decide...
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cleo

Just to start you off -winter lettuce(well to crop early spring)-Hilde and Winter density-sow late Autumn.

PSB-again for spring harvest-look for early psb and late psb.

For late broccoli/calabrese look for `Di Chico`(sp?)

For `winter` crops try Misticaza ,sugar loaf chicory,whitloof chicory for forcing,lambs lettuce,rocket and don`t forget the pea shoots

antipodes

Hi Jeannine,
Think you can get varieties of winter spinach too??
And what about silverbeet? Is that what it is called there? White stalks and dark green leaves. It is very hardy.
Something they like in France is what we call "Celeri rave" think it is rot celery, or celeriac? Has celery leaves but is a root veg that forms a large brown root with white flesh. very tasty, hardy, you can eat it grated in salad or cooked, tastes like mild celery.
My local famer grows winter salads too, curly endive, "scarole" and lamb's lettuce.
Swede? Brussel sprouts! Delicious! and I believe you can crop potatoes till early winter (december).
Haven't thought about winter yet!!! still struggling with spring :D
2012 - Snow in February, non-stop rain till July. Blight and rot are rife. Thieving voles cause strife. But first runner beans and lots of greens. Follow an English allotment in urban France: http://roos-and-camembert.blogspot.com

Marymary

Thanks for raising this topic, Jeannine, I am determined to get the most out of my little plot & want to plant stuff for winter but I too am unsure what to plant or when to plant it. I haven't got much space so will have to bring things on in pots to go in when summer crops come out.  Also I want to make use of my unheated greenhouse so need to be thinking about what can go in there.  I shall follow this thread with interest & hopefully be able to decide. 

Incidentally, I am writing this in Brussels where we are for a few days.  The weather is HOT, we have both got sunburnt & can't sit on the balcony any longer as we were frying! 

Tee Gee

Purple Sprouting Brocc.
White       "            "


As I mentioned in another thread I don't grow them now but I found the choice was a bit limited in any case so take your pick!!


Kales,
Curly green or Redbor should fit the bill


Cabbages,


Tundra as a Cabbage and Wintessa as a Savoy

April or Spring Hero for a Spring Cabbage

Cauli, 

Any of the Walchern varieties  and Belot

Leeks, Musselburgh


The rest I don't know much about don't grow them!

Jeannine

Good start for me, some things jogged my memory. I used to grow winter density lettuce(don't have) but I do have  lambs lettuce,rocket, chicory   and I think I have Spring Hero as well..

Musselburgh rings a bell as well...don't have

The PSP I have is early.

I think I used to grow Tyee spinach late..don't have

I used to grow Tundra too...don't have

Is silverbeet what we would call Chard? Have lots of that

I think the beetroot was Winterkeeper


I think the celery root veggie mentioned is celariac which I have. Have that too

I have no idea what a pea shoot is???

Sally-Cinnamon that is very kind of you, I will happily swap if you have spares.Thank you

MaryMary, I grow salads all year round as best I can  by using my greenhouse in the winter,I might be able to help you on that bit.

I have book on Winter Gardening on the Pacific Northwest in the States  but many of the names are not the same. The climate is about the same though and it says to start most things in June,does that sound right?

XX Jeannine
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angle shades

:)

have Musselburgh leek seed if you want some Jeannine, I don't need anything in return/ shades x
grow your own way

Jeannine

Shades that would be great,I will accept that, I might  have something for you anyway !! XX Jeannine  I will PM you
When God blesses you with a multitude of seeds double  the blessing by sharing your  seeds with other folks.

manicscousers

Hi, Jeannine, I have some winter lisbon salad onion seeds, winter density lettuce, and winter purslane, aka claytonia if you can use them..don't need swaps this year..let me know, marilyn

Jeannine

Hi Manic, smashing, I din't expect to get seeds, just help. I do have Da Mazzi  adn De Baletta from My Italian friend but I don't think they are winters,the Winter Density would be great too. I think I grew Valdor as well.

The other one I don't know what it is, but if you think it is good I will have a go. I must give something back though.

I will Pm you XX Thank you Jeannine
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cleo

I have no idea what a pea shoot is???

A pea-sown for it young leaves?

Jeannine

Really, you mean you just eat the leaves
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saddad

yes all the above ground bit is edible, and the root of you just sprout them in water like mung beans..
The Claytonia is a good standby over winter as is Sugar loaf chicory, endive and raddichio (red chicory).... we can risk carrots if August is damp and cool and swede which I have been eating all winter. The Winter Radish... black spanish round is great cooked but powerful raw in salads...
I have a couple of heritage lettuce which over winter in a cold greenhouse or under cloches... Stoke and Bronze Arrow.. Bath Cos and Loos Tennis ball have also done the bus. in Derby...



January and February this year ...
;D

Jeannine

Wow Saddad that is what I want to do, pick stuff at different times. I am more determined than ever now. I need sowing help though XX Jeannine
When God blesses you with a multitude of seeds double  the blessing by sharing your  seeds with other folks.

cleo

Really, you mean you just eat the leaves

If Sarah left us anything it was eating pea sprouts

saddad

The main sowing times are end of May for the early winter... up to Dec. and again at the end of July early August for the Nov to March period...
:-\
If you want any specifics just pm me Jeannine...
;D

Jeannine

Oh I see, I do sprout a lot of seeds and things XX Jeannine
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Hyacinth

Jeannine, you must grow some endive Witlof, and for special interest to the Black Bucket Brigade they can be used to force the chicons 8)

;D

Jeannine

Lish I do have some Endive, is it not bitter,actually I have  box of stuff I got as a gift I have never grown, chicory, raddichio,endive,lambs lettuce,rocket, etc. I don't know much about any of them except I am not keen on mixed salad leaves with anything other than mixed lettuces in. I guess I need to read uo a bit more in this area XX Jeannine
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