Spaced out!

[Aden Roller]

Here is something worth the couple of minutes to view: a 360 panorama of the Discovery crew cabin flight deck. This is pretty cool----and maybe the last time we get to see it before it's stuffed and mounted at the Smithsonian!

ENJOY

Lighting is from the internal instrument panel lights.

Click here to start


Explore Discovery's flight deck ... hold down the left mouse button and move your mouse around and you can pan in all directions.  Just imagine you're cruising along at 17,000 mph, and maneuvering to join up with the International Space Station!!

[Aden Roller]

[Steve.]

I see they have the curtains closed....I wonder who they think might look in?  ;D....and I couldn't see a kettle anywhere!!

Steve...:)

[lincsyokel2]

Although you have to wonder at the logic  of scrapping it.

Its like buying a top of the range BMW, and a mountian holiday home in the Cairngorms, miles from nowhere, then a few years later you scrap the BMW and decide to rely on the Russian neighbours next door and their Reliant Robin to get you there and back every time instead.

[Bugloss2009]

interesting that the US Army budget for air-conditioning for troops in Iraq is bigger than the entire NASA budget..........

but maybe it's a good thing we don't try going Anywhere Else til we're sorted out Here to everyone's satisfaction

[Aden Roller]

interesting that the US Army budget for air-conditioning for troops in Iraq is bigger than the entire NASA budget..........

but maybe it's a good thing we don't try going Anywhere Else til we're sorted out Here to everyone's satisfaction

An intersting thought there.  ;)  I wonder if we will ever sort this place out to everyone's satisfaction.  :-\

I think Chris Columbus was right to get sailing rather than wait for the folks at home to sort their problems out.  ;)

[lincsyokel2]

interesting that the US Army budget for air-conditioning for troops in Iraq is bigger than the entire NASA budget..........

but maybe it's a good thing we don't try going Anywhere Else til we're sorted out Here to everyone's satisfaction

Man is doomed unless he gets out amongst the stars. The resources on this planet will last only a finite amount of time, whereas mankind contunues to expand in terms of population, technology and resource demands. Unless we populate the galaxy, with its infinite resources, the ultimate fate of man on this planet will be to exhaust it, and wither and die.

Read this, its a serious eye opener....

http://www.futuretimeline.net/

[OllieC]

the galaxy, with its infinite resources

All galaxies are finite and therefore all "resources" contained within are finite too. Just sayin'!

[Nigel B]

the galaxy, with its infinite resources

All galaxies are finite and therefore all "resources" contained within are finite too. Just sayin'!

Are there not an infinite number of galaxies in an infinite universe?

Just thinkin'!

:P

[Bugloss2009]

the galaxy, with its infinite resources

All galaxies are finite and therefore all "resources" contained within are finite too. Just sayin'!

but where do thing go then. after they've been used up?

[lincsyokel2]

the galaxy, with its infinite resources

All galaxies are finite and therefore all "resources" contained within are finite too. Just sayin'!

but where do thing go then. after they've been used up?

Matter can be neither created nor destroyed.
Energy is another form of matter
Information is another form of Energy.

All you do is convert from one to the other. Nothing is lost or destroyed. Matter/Energy/Information all obey the Universe's  laws on conservation, in the same way that momentum and spin do.

The  Universe is in practice infinite within our current realms of measurement.

The Amount of matter in the universe is therefore also infinite, and to make matters worse, there probably 10 times more  Dark Matter than ordinary matter than we can observe. So I think it very unlikely that even at some vastly distant point in the future, we will use all the resources of the universe.

[OllieC]

Woah, Information obeys the laws of Physics? This is a new one on me...

There's a good documentary called Wall-E which shows what happens to stuff once it's been used up.

[lincsyokel2]

Woah, Information obeys the laws of Physics? This is a new one on me...

There's a good documentary called Wall-E which shows what happens to stuff once it's been used up.

Yes but you have to realise were talking about particle physics information - sub atomic mass, spin,  and momentum, not who won the 3:30 at Pontefract.

Thers a huge debate about a thing called Hawkings Information paradox, all to do with what happens to the information  that vanishes into a Black Hole when its carried in by the black hole absorbing a prticle. When the black hole evaporates, there's a final poof of energy, and it all vanishes, including the information inside, which violates the Second law of Thermodynamics. Hawkings himself came up with a REALLY lame, naff explanation, but I dont buy it, and neither does a lot of the science world.

So its all still under debate at the moment.

[OllieC]

Be careful though, even Relativity is a liberal conspiracy.

http://conservapedia.com/Relativity

[katynewbie]

Those seats don't look very comfy...

:-[

[lincsyokel2]

Relativity is old hat. It fails to explain various things such as wave particle duality of photons. Even Quantum theory has its shortcomings such its failure to provide a quantum theory of gravity. Neither theory offers any explanation as to exactly how mass arises and precisely why the dimensionality of spacetime is four.

The main game now at stuff like String Theory and Twistor theory.

[OllieC]

You're right, Relativity is rubbish. And a liberal conspiracy.

[Bugloss2009]

we don't want to peak too early. These nit-picking threads are more fun and last longer in the middle of winter when we're all a bit more narky

it's hard to get all worked up and anankastic when the sun's still shining outside

actually lincs Twistor theory is old hat. Cutting edge Space Cadets are all into Kerplunk Theory these days

[lincsyokel2]

we don't want to peak too early. These nit-picking threads are more fun and last longer in the middle of winter when we're all a bit more narky

it's hard to get all worked up and anankastic when the sun's still shining outside

actually lincs Twistor theory is old hat. Cutting edge Space Cadets are all into Kerplunk Theory these days

Twistor theory is a really smart theory invented by Roger Penrose, the guy who invented half the images that M C Escher nicked and took the credit for. It is a deep theory that explains how the three dimensionality of space time arises out of complex points called twistors,  the mind  numbing bit is that spacetime is probably eleven or twenty six dimensions. Dont even try to grasp it, i can get to five dimensions mentally and thats it.

[OllieC]

nit-picking

Don't you mean knit-picking?

[Bugloss2009]

nit-picking

Don't you mean knit-picking?

that's the spirit! It'll be Spring in no time

and no, I didn't