Unconscionable amount of this this year.

[tim]

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[tim]

[Svengali]

Yes - I have it too - but what is it, and how did it get into my greenhouse?

[davyw1]

Give them a dose of Epsom Salts

[jennym]

Aha! knew this link would come in handy sometime!
Lots of pics of the various trace element deficiencies here:
http://4e.plantphys.net/article.php?ch=5&id=289

[tim]

Great ref. Jenny -- but WHY this year for the first time in over 50?? And EVERY plant.

And it's getting daily worse!!

First time with Westland grow bags?

[SMP1704]

Tim

Send that pic to Westland and see what they have to say for themselves - how many of their growbags did you buy this year???

[saddad]

I'm getting a lot this year... but it's just starvation on mine... grew them in yogurt pots for the sale on Sunday and with the hot April they grew too quickly and used up all the nutrients.. have given them a feed and they will be ok once in the soil (but a little delayed)
What I have lots of is Greenfly... am using the "Schools" greenhouse for storage and it is literally crawling!
:-\

[tim]

I did - this am!

Only 20 of theirs - the others are from the Wormcastcompany which I'm trying out.

[growmore]

Tim, I threw 4 tommies out  with  small tomatoes  on  same sort of symptoms ...
Some others on our Lotty site complaining too. Not just tommies its happening with different things..
All the root systems of these affected  plants I have seen  ain't what they   should be.  I think its down to the compost/growbags etc we are now getting sold.
Is this down to the new recycled stuff that councils are making getting used to bulk up commercial composts?..
Is the compost \growbag running out of steam?...
Is there an in-balance  in the mix ?
We could say funny weather conditions but I think we have been at it long enough to know the different smptoms we are experiencing  ...

[Svengali]

I am using Levington Tomorite growbag compost, transferred to 12" pots, so it does not seem to be manufacturer-specific.

[telboy]

Mentioned this on another thread.
Last years compost?
Cold temps?
I've suffered from both those this season.

[tim]

Yes & no.

Compost? Unfortunately, It was collected for me so I didn't ask. But Burford Garden Co are usually reliable. I'll follow that up.

Cold? Well yes, down to 45F in the 'house, but then that's no surprise.

[greenscrump]

Mine were fine till I planted them out mid May, they had been hardened off, but after the hot and sunny April it has been much cooler, windier and wetter.......

[Svengali]

O.K. - So now we know what it is, and that many of us have got it - but what can we DO about it? Is there some sort of mineral nutrient feed that we can apply?

[shirlton]

Great ref. Jenny -- but WHY this year for the first time in over 50?? And EVERY plant.

And it's getting daily worse!!

First time with Westland grow bags?

Well Tim I used Westland peat free compost 2 years ago for my winter pansies. I was devastated with them they were so stunted it was untrue. Leaves yellowing from the bottom. Tony went to homebase and got me some miracle grow compo and I redid all my pots and baskets. (this was in the spring) In a couple of weeks you could see the difference. They all started to grow. I wrote to Westland and told them about the problem and also enclosed before and after pics for them to see and they asked for a sample of the compo. I sent it to Ireland. They wrote back and said it was ok.  I remember speaking to an old gent a few years ago and he told me that they use weedkiller to sterilise the compo and if its not left long enough before it goes on sale it can kill your plants.

[davyw1]

I still say give them a dose of Epsom Salts

[shirlton]

give em a good clear out eh Davy. lol

[davyw1]

Oh yes cant beet a good clean out.
But i am serious, Type in Epsom Salts on plants in your search engine.
It replace Magnisium deficiency

[tim]

Davy - sorry, I failed to acknowledge your post.

Yes, of course - Epsoms are part of the routine. As is Calcium.

But I have never had such a sudden & overall onslaught as this. Whatever it is!!

[davyw1]

Nowts the bother Tim but looking at the photo,s that the bright yellow leaves look like Magnesium deficiency. The dark brown one i think means you have problems Tim  but you already know that.
You are not using Organic Compost are you.