Raspberries ?

[pompeydude]

I have a run of July/august fruiting raspberry canes, that i inherited 5 years ago, but they seem to be coming to and end, I'm going to replace them after this crop.
I also have a similar space suitable for raspberries just 2 meters down the garden.  I would like to plant a run of early and a run of late cropping berries.
When should i plant the new canes?  And has anybody got any recommendation for good tasting and good cropping varieties ?
;D ;D ;D ;D

[pompeydude]

[Mrs greenjeans]

HI Pompey...

I'm planning to put in Autumn Bliss in a few months. You can order them from Organic Garden catalogue or Crocus, if you're internet minded, but it's a pretty common variety and most places stock it.

It's supposed to be good cropping and disease resisitant (??)

I've got a new plot which is pretty weedy, but I've covered one width of it at the back with weed suppressing matting and am hoping by end of summer that it will be ready.

What kind of supports do you recommend? I'm inexperienced with the whole woodworking bit...

[teresa]

I saw two stakes at the end of each row about 18 inches apart.
think there was stakes inbetween and then a single thick wire was stappled to the canes at about 1 ft  spacing in height up to 5 ft to support the canes which are lax.
I have two little plants so this year a garden cane will do I think will get some more next year I love rasberries.

[saddad]

I'd go for Autumn Bliss as well...

;D

[flossie]

I have some Autumn Bliss that are brilliant and some earlier, nameless cheapo types from Morrisons they were a real bargain.

People are often giving them away on our plot so it may be worth putting out a few feelers.

[jennym]

I find Joan J is a large fruited, tasty autumn raspberry.

[teresa]

PD.
Have you thought about trying to boost them up to encourage new growth ?
As rasberries need a lot of feeding, roted manure loads of it this will not only feed them but keep moisture in the ground.
Then see what you have got and transplant the new growth in the autumn not sure about the pruning of summer or autumn fruiting var's but if you cut the fruited canes back to say a foot high.
You may have a good variety pity to get rid of it try a little tlc first?

[jennym]

This link explains the pruning of autumn and summer fruiting raspberries:
http://www.allotments4all.co.uk/joomla/smf/index.php/topic,20159.msg207565.html#msg207565

[teresa]

thanks jennym, I have saved that

[Curryandchips]

I have both summer and autumn fruiting canes, sadly unknown varieties, but the autumn ones are yellow fruit, which has the advantage that the birds seem far less interested in them. This will be my first year with more than a couple of canes, so I hope to get a decent amount of fruit off.

[flowerlady]

I don't suppose anyone might have any yellow rasp canes that they could do me a cutting from - later on?

[pompeydude]

Hello everone,
thanks for the replies,
so it's Autumn bliss then !!  i was leaning toward this one any way.
i just have to make my mind up on the summer one, or try and stick with the ones i have now !
i was under the impression that they were rather like strawberries, in as much, that you have to replace them every few years ??  that and the fact i have not so many canes this year.
i have been giving them a good old thick layer of horse poo, on top of a good sprinkling of potash in Jan/Feb time  then another sprinkling of potash as they start to set fruit.
i don't think it's lack of care ?? i just thought they out live themselves?

:) :)

[glow777]

I have both summer and autumn fruiting canes, sadly unknown varieties, but the autumn ones are yellow fruit, which has the advantage that the birds seem far less interested in them. This will be my first year with more than a couple of canes, so I hope to get a decent amount of fruit off.

The yellow ones will be autumn gold, Im considering getting some of these this year. We tend to share our red rasps with the birds and I like the idea of being able to cut the whole lot back. Do they crop well?