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davholla

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Gooseberry pruning. Neccessary?
« on: November 01, 2013, 15:02:13 »
I will put some pictures of them tomorrow, but do I need to prune my gooseberries?
I have never had a brilliant crop from them - they are 6 or less years old.
I think that I have not given them enough space, mainly because the garden is small and the boss is strict about where I plant things.

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Re: Gooseberry pruning. Neccessary?
« Reply #1 on: November 01, 2013, 18:37:36 »
While it's not strictly necessary to prune gooseberry bushes you are unlikely get good fruit crops unless you do.

Pruning encourages fruit buds to form, lets in light for ripening and disease control while making them easier to pick.

If space is limited they can be trained as cordon, fans, or espaliers very easily.

Look forward to seeing your pics. Pruning season is almost upon us! :happy7:


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Re: Gooseberry pruning. Neccessary?
« Reply #2 on: November 02, 2013, 10:20:19 »
Pruning is really needed as fruits form on old wood spurs and if you do not prune it will get very difficult to pick the fruits. You prune to form spurs and to alow a good airflow through the bush. If the variety is suitable you can train as cordons but it needs to be an upright growing one. Generally you prune back the wood formed  this year allowing for some new growth if you want to make the bush larger. Prune any  branches that are crossing others. The bush would normally be on a leg to keep the fruit clear of the soil. 

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Re: Gooseberry pruning. Neccessary?
« Reply #3 on: November 03, 2013, 22:22:20 »
If you think they are setting fruit but not getting them to grow on, consider netting them - the birds eat the fruit.

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Re: Gooseberry pruning. Neccessary?
« Reply #4 on: November 05, 2013, 21:47:44 »
If you think they are setting fruit but not getting them to grow on, consider netting them - the birds eat the fruit.
No that is not the problem next door have a cherry tree and that seems to keep the pigeons happy.



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Re: Gooseberry pruning. Neccessary?
« Reply #7 on: November 05, 2013, 22:20:05 »
They do seem rather straggly and overcrowded.  I think that they need not only to be pruned into a nice goblet shape, but given a bit more light.

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Re: Gooseberry pruning. Neccessary?
« Reply #8 on: November 06, 2013, 08:39:14 »
Davholla your gooseberry plants really need a good prune. Luckily your pics show exactly what needs doing to get them into shape.

Both these fruits are very easy to prune and are both pruned in exactly the same way. :happy7:

In pic no 3 I can see a plant that consists of tangled brown branches toward the middle with about 15 long whippy white/light grey shoots growing outwards.

Step one is to prune all the long whippy light grey stems back to about an inch of the dark brown wood. Don't worry next year the plant will grow more long whippy shoots that will be cut back to an inch the following year.

Pruning like this  encourages fruit buds to form/ :happy7:

Step two. Cut away some of the older brown branches to open up the centre. You will have cut away about 60%/70% of the bush but you will get more fruit.

You can leave two or three of the long whippy shoots if you want a bigger plant. You cut only one third from these extension shoots that will become new branches after a while.

In the first photo your gooseberry seems to be growing against a wall. You can save space here by training it's branches against the wall rather than growing out away from it. Gooseberries will grow in semi-shade quite happily.

Do the same with your white currants - cut all the white/grey new shots back to inch stubs and open out the middle.

Do this every year and bountiful crops are guaranteed.  :icon_cheers:
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Re: Gooseberry pruning. Neccessary?
« Reply #9 on: November 06, 2013, 10:45:02 »
Davholla your gooseberry plants really need a good prune. Luckily your pics show exactly what needs doing to get them into shape.

Both these fruits are very easy to prune and are both pruned in exactly the same way. :happy7:

In pic no 3 I can see a plant that consists of tangled brown branches toward the middle with about 15 long whippy white/light grey shoots growing outwards.

Step one is to prune all the long whippy light grey stems back to about an inch of the dark brown wood. Don't worry next year the plant will grow more long whippy shoots that will be cut back to an inch the following year.

Pruning like this  encourages fruit buds to form/ :happy7:

Step two. Cut away some of the older brown branches to open up the centre. You will have cut away about 60%/70% of the bush but you will get more fruit.

You can leave two or three of the long whippy shoots if you want a bigger plant. You cut only one third from these extension shoots that will become new branches after a while.

In the first photo your gooseberry seems to be growing against a wall. You can save space here by training it's branches against the wall rather than growing out away from it. Gooseberries will grow in semi-shade quite happily.

Do the same with your white currants - cut all the white/grey new shots back to inch stubs and open out the middle.

Do this every year and bountiful crops are guaranteed.  :icon_cheers:

Thanks I will try that this weekend.  I do have some others that need pruning and I will post photos of them this weekend as well.  Can you please advise on them when you have time?

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Re: Gooseberry pruning. Neccessary?
« Reply #10 on: November 06, 2013, 16:17:44 »
Always happy to help with pruning advice. I like pruning and the pruning of my grapevines and soft fruit begins in about a month.

Can't wait! Few people realize that correct pruning is the single most important task you can do to ensure consistent crops of high quality fruit. :happy7:

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Re: Gooseberry pruning. Neccessary?
« Reply #11 on: November 06, 2013, 17:26:18 »
Always happy to help with pruning advice. I like pruning and the pruning of my grapevines and soft fruit begins in about a month.
If I knew what I was doing I would like it to.  Sadly my parents never grew soft fruit.


Can't wait! Few people realize that correct pruning is the single most important task you can do to ensure consistent crops of high quality fruit. :happy7:
That could explain my poor crops

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Re: Gooseberry pruning. Neccessary?
« Reply #12 on: November 10, 2013, 16:26:07 »
Thanks it was scary but I did the front garden - and now the light has gone.  I will take pictures next weekend of those that are still to do and also afters to see if I have missed anything.

I am always worried with pruning that I will not get any fruit - I haven't had great yields in the past.


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Re: Gooseberry pruning. Neccessary?
« Reply #13 on: December 03, 2013, 21:02:36 »
http://s1245.photobucket.com/user/davholla2002/slideshow/

Here are some more pictures pruned (maybe not enough) and unpruned.
I would have posted before but I was busy, then I got ill, then I got grief for putting these pictures on flickr so I had to use something else.


Any advice on how to finish this

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Re: Gooseberry pruning. Neccessary?
« Reply #14 on: December 15, 2013, 15:01:26 »
Can anyone help?

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Re: Gooseberry pruning. Neccessary?
« Reply #15 on: December 15, 2013, 17:46:46 »
I always prune to "open" out the plant, it looks like some of the branches are crossing each other which is best avoided. Have they been short of light? it does appear a bit that they are growing towards the light.

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Re: Gooseberry pruning. Neccessary?
« Reply #16 on: December 15, 2013, 17:50:56 »
I always prune to "open" out the plant, it looks like some of the branches are crossing each other which is best avoided. Have they been short of light? it does appear a bit that they are growing towards the light.
Which ones look like that?  Most are in good light although two are in medium - heavy shade.

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Re: Gooseberry pruning. Neccessary?
« Reply #17 on: December 15, 2013, 18:15:22 »
From the unpruned/after pruning photos you are on the right track. You have pruned the grey/white new growths, the spikey shoots, back to short stubs. The buds left on the older brown wood is where the fruit buds are and where the gooseberries will form.

To make it easier to pick the fruit you could remove some of the more congested branches in the middle of the bush but if you are not confident doing so leave them for this year and take note of any awkward branches at picking time making a mental note for their removal next winter.

As long as each year you prune all the new grey/white/spikey shoots to stubs bountiful gooseberry harvests are guaranteed as you are constantly pruning for fruit rather than unproductive growth by doing so. :happy7:

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Re: Gooseberry pruning. Neccessary?
« Reply #18 on: December 15, 2013, 18:17:05 »
From the unpruned/after pruning photos you are on the right track. You have pruned the grey/white new growths, the spikey shoots, back to short stubs. The buds left on the older brown wood is where the fruit buds are and where the gooseberries will form.

To make it easier to pick the fruit you could remove some of the more congested branches in the middle of the bush but if you are not confident doing so leave them for this year and take note of any awkward branches at picking time making a mental note for their removal next winter.

As long as each year you prune all the new grey/white/spikey shoots to stubs bountiful gooseberry harvests are guaranteed as you are constantly pruning for fruit rather than unproductive growth by doing so. :happy7:
Thanks for that I will try to do it over Christmas, it shouldn't be late should it?
BTW I am slightly colour blind so I will get my wife to help but obviously planning to do things with a woman takes longer.

 

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