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seems a cop out when better security is the answer ???
Quote from: pumpkinlover on November 02, 2011, 21:12:13seems a cop out when better security is the answer ???too right. I have three sheds, the one with the valuable bits in is like fort knox. Padlock is high quality unpickable and unforceable. The door is three inches thick, on heavy duty coach bolts and haevy gate hinges, bolted to the frame which is 3x4 reinforced. The inside and roof are lined with chicken wire, and the whole thing is choach bolted together, and the panels wire bradded on with an electric nail gun. Its surrounded with plastic water tanks (so you have to stand in two feet of water to get near it). There only one way in,and thats to demolish it where it stands with a JCB, and even then the chicken wire will hold it together until painstakingly cut apart with metal shears. No one is going to attempt to break into my shed.
Quote from: pumpkinlover on November 02, 2011, 21:12:13seems a cop out when better security is the answer ???too right. I have three sheds, the one with the valuable bits in is like fort knox. Padlock is high quality unpickable and unforceable. The door is three inches thick, on heavy duty coach bolts and haevy gate hinges, bolted to the frame which is 3x4 reinforced. The inside and roof are lined with chicken wire, and the whole thing is choach bolted together, and the panels wire bradded on with an electric nail gun. Its surrounded with plastic water tanks (so you have to stand in two feet of water to get near it). There only one way in,and thats to demolish it where it stands with a JCB, and even then the chicken wire will hold it together until painstakingly cut apart with metal shears. No one is going to attempt to break into my shed.[/quotebe carefull you dont lose the key
But I felt a bit that to say people should not have sheds because of break-ins is not very fair, and an easy way out for the Association/ council or whoever.
Quote from: lincsyokel2 on November 02, 2011, 21:39:45Quote from: pumpkinlover on November 02, 2011, 21:12:13seems a cop out when better security is the answer ???too right. I have three sheds, the one with the valuable bits in is like fort knox. Padlock is high quality unpickable and unforceable. The door is three inches thick, on heavy duty coach bolts and haevy gate hinges, bolted to the frame which is 3x4 reinforced. The inside and roof are lined with chicken wire, and the whole thing is choach bolted together, and the panels wire bradded on with an electric nail gun. Its surrounded with plastic water tanks (so you have to stand in two feet of water to get near it). There only one way in,and thats to demolish it where it stands with a JCB, and even then the chicken wire will hold it together until painstakingly cut apart with metal shears. No one is going to attempt to break into my shed.padlock? watch this for how easy it can be to open oneno such thing as an unforceable padlock http://youtu.be/fRjNnnLOpmE
Quote from: pumpkinlover on November 02, 2011, 21:12:13seems a cop out when better security is the answer ???Though sometimes it can be more complicated.Putting a big enough fence around a site will keep people out, but it doesn't address the underlying social problem, and if that problem is vandalism from a disenfranchised and alienated underclass then putting up fences only serves to alienate and disenfranchise them more. It's a difficult argument though to tell someone who's had their shed broken into that the best solution is to throw the site gates open and invite the community in.
Quote from: Unwashed on November 02, 2011, 22:27:57Quote from: pumpkinlover on November 02, 2011, 21:12:13seems a cop out when better security is the answer ???Though sometimes it can be more complicated.Putting a big enough fence around a site will keep people out, but it doesn't address the underlying social problem, and if that problem is vandalism from a disenfranchised and alienated underclass then putting up fences only serves to alienate and disenfranchise them more. It's a difficult argument though to tell someone who's had their shed broken into that the best solution is to throw the site gates open and invite the community in.I had my shed broken into last week and predictably, I think the above is ... well, not a load of carp but something that isn't valid in the current economic climate. This time, the break ins were by people looking for scrap and they had a vehicle and good set of bolt croppers and took spades. To say that we could have avoided it by being a bit more community minded seems naive at best and at worst a simple case of blaming the victims. There are a lot of people out there who just want the money and will hit the softest target to get it, regardless.
I've found that a cordless grinder fitted with a diamond wheel opens most padlocks.and, the more locks on a shed, the more worthwhile breaking in to, usually!!