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Quote from: Debs on November 07, 2025, 11:51:42Sorry JanG,
I've completely missed messages as have had a lot going on!!

Is there still time for me to catch up and contribute?
Debs

Hello Debs. Thanks for your interest in joining the Seed Circle. I'm afraid it's much too late to join for this year. With the deadline being only three weeks away, the other members of the Circle will already have measured out many of their available seeds into six packets. As you can imagine, with several contributing between 20 and 30 different varieties, there are quite a lot of hours involved in making up possibly in excess of 100 little packets.

So please set your sights on next year. I hope you have a good growing year ahead on your new allotment and can build up to a good range of seeds to offer by summer next year.

Hi Debs,

I had a look back at the record for the SSC 2016 and found that the description for 'Sharpe's Liberty' matches your unknown peas; the donor states they are "perfectly round with a black hilum spot".

However, what was shared as 'Sharpe's Liberty' in the circle and by the HSL is without a doubt not actually the real variety, to which the seed bears no resemblance, as evidenced by reliable descriptions:
 

QuoteFoliage dense, very dark blue green, not whitened, with non-characteristic leaflets in 6s and much larger, deeply clasping, sharp-tipped, stipules, finely serrate to above the middle; pods start at the 15th node, on long very heavy stalks, singly or in pairs, the longest of any described for the Ne Plus Ultra group, usually 4 1/4 to 4 1/2 inches, occasionally 3 3/4 or almost 5 inches, tending to curve slightly, but otherwise of the Ne Plus Ultra type, very dark in colour with heavy bloom; peas 5 to 7 or more, also very dark green, smooth, round and not indented, oval in vertical section and smaller than most of those in the group; seeds of medium size, dimpled to coarsely wrinked, largely cream in colour.

Peas of New York, 1928

It was also included in RHS Wisley trials 1939, under 'Seeds Wrinkled':

QuoteHaulm 4 feet, dark grey green; pods mostly in pairs, pointed, straight, 4 1/2 inches long; peas large, bright dark green, of good flavour, 8 or 10 in a pod. Crop good. Ready Aug 10.

For whatever reason the HSL does not appear to make use of historical references to identify their pea varieties accurately, unfortunately I've found numerous errors and varieties be touted as something they are not, still to this day.

Of course this is absolutely no fault of your own and thank you for offering the variety, whatever it may be! A black hilum on a pale pea is uncommon. However, I just want it to be known that while it was traded as 'Sharpe's Liberty' this is a mistake and steps should be taken to prevent its further dispersal under that name. I feared it would have inevitably been 'misidentified' again, based on the past circle reference, if I didn't comment :)

Viola Cornetti seeds (Galina 2016)
This is a sample, despite poor germination,the plants produced a good number of pods, so plenty of beans

Unknown peas ( see pic) were from the seed circle 2016

San Marzano-heirloom Italian tomatoes (renowned by chefs) were grown in the greenhouse and very productive

Gazza yellow Egg (Markfield Rover 2016 Seed Circle)
Grown in greenhouse,distinctive egg shape ,very productive, sweet tasting tomato

Viola Cornetti
Grown from seeds of the 2016 seed circle, contributed by Galina.
Poor germination so grown for seed collection.

Sorry JanG,
I've completely missed messages as have had a lot going on!!

Is there still time for me to catch up and contribute?
Debs

HI, Fingers crossed I have blocked them. I put adblocker a free site to help and it seems to working as I've seen no ads on this site now. Hope it works

Thank you JanG , really appreciate all the time you have taken to do this. I may have some dahlia seeds too( drying nicely) I've grown dahlias to cross so hopefully no shrinking violets !

I am annoyed at getting interupted by google adverts. They are a real pain. How do I kill them off? is it on this site or my computor doing it? any advice would be mosy welcome

I think these are the seed circle total contributions which have been offered at various times in the last six months or so. If they're not accurate or up to date, please say. And of course, there is still time for change.
I'm sure you'll agree that once more it's a very impressive collection of amazing seeds. Thank you all very much for your commitment.

Vetivert

Tomato, S. lycopersicum

Beefsteak
Jazz
Orange Jazz
Vinson Watts

Cherry
Pinky
Primabella

Round slicer
Queen of Hearts


Dwarf Beans, P. vulgaris var. nanus
Krummschnabel
Mulldoon
Dwarf Lil' Daisy
Tan Six Weeks

Climbing Beans, P. vulgaris var. vulgaris
Fat Man
Napier-Combs Family Greasy

Runner Bean, P. coccineus
Stenner

Lettuce, L. sativa
Wiener Maidivi

Radish, R. sativus
Smooth-leaved Mooli
(appears similar to variety sold as 'China Jade' by Baker Creek)

Cress, Lepidium sativum
Wrinkled Crinkled Crumpled

Marigold, Tagetes erecta
Hot Stuff

Ornamentals

Angel's Trumpets, Mirabilis longiflora
Clary Sage, Salvia viridis
Oxford Blue

Summer Squash, C. maxima
Duobao


Garrett


Tomatoes -
Sergeant Pepper's (red/blue medium heart)
Malachite Box (green medium)
Tiny Tim - bush red cherry

Climbing french beans for drying -
Coco Bicolour
Deb's Creek

Dwarf french beans:
Merveille de Piemonte, yellow pods with purple markings
Purple Queen, purple pods
Jacob's Cattle Gold, golden yellow version for drying

Flowers:
Tithonia (Mexican sunflower)
Nicotiana mutabilis
Marshmallow
Sunflower Yellow Pygmy


Markfield Rover

Flowers
Wild sweet pea Pink Tangier ( Lathyrus Tingitanus)
Viola Brush Stokes
Ipomoea Tutu
Four o'Clock flower, Mirabilis jalapa
Marigold 'Lucy's Starburst'
Cosmos sulphureus.

Salad leaves
Land cress 'Grandpa's'

Tomato
Rose de Berne
Glacier
First in the Field
Mexican Midget
Peppermint.
Peruvianum.
Goldiana .

CFB
Poletska
Alice Whitis Pink
Croft Italian

DFB
Cupitano.

Pea
Twelve Acre
Fairbeards Pariel


Cinnamon vine

Mangle
Yellow Intermediate


Galina

Summer squash (Cucurbita pepo)
Pattypan  'Golden Marbre'
Early Prolific Straightneck Squash

Winter squash
Buttercup (C.maxima)

Tps
From 'Pink Dog'

Tomato
Green Spindle
Delicate
Orange Bourgoin

Water Melon
Golden Midget

Lettuce
Stoke

CFB
Violet Podded Stringless
Dracula's Eye
Childers Cutshort

Salad leaves
Cultivated rocket

Juliev

Ornamentals
Poppy (P Somniferum): white seeds Sokol (pale flowers)
Poppy (P Somniferum): dark flowers After Midnight (dark seeds)


Tomato
Black Strawberry - pink/red stripy cherry, beautiful and shiny!
Indigo Fireball - yellow with antho top, quite big for a cherry
Mlle Foriers - beautiful pink/red with antho shoulders, med/big
Marsha's Starfighter - beautiful dark stripy antho beefsteak


Pea
Dwarf - Grey Sugar pea


I haven't opened them yet but I should have:
Naked-seed squash (C. Pepo)
Penelopa
Penelopa X Dana and Dana X Penelopa/Dana/Kakai.

Golden Flax

Grain
Amaranth (originally the rainbow mix from Real Seeds)

Ruud

CFB
Selma Zesta
Reading Purple
Mantra
Acman Ayse Sirik or Alman Ayse
Bosnian
Golden Sunshine

Peppers
Demre-t
Tepecik Yakon
Sahnali
Urfa

Brussel, sprouts
Roodnerf 2025
Long Island

Turnip
De Milan

Beetroot
Kirmizi Pancar

Chard
Multicoured

Scorzonera
Long Black

Okra
Clemsons Spineless

Lettuce
Yedikule

Salad leaves
Rocket

Ornamentals
Borage
Mayweed

Herbs
Basil
Coriander

Tomato
Royal Hillybilly
Grasa de Bihor
Creole
Abraham Lincoln
Napa Giant
La Cader
Zaitska or Zyska
Sherill
Christmas Tree
Unknown
Super Yerli Marmande
Heinz 2274
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Jang

Broad bean
Black Isle

Peppers
Aji Ahuachapau (CAP220)
Lima Market Amarillo
Serrano
Purple Tiger
Fish

Tomatoes
Mila Orange
Moldovan Green
OSU Blue
Sunviva
Violet Noir

Lettuce
Rouge Grenoble
Valiant
Hyper Red Rumple Waved
Lollo Rossa
Brown Goldring

Peas
Clarke's Beltony Blue
Ruby Beauty
Raatviksaart Soup pea

CFB
Gialèt della Valbelluna
Papa de Rola
Paul Bunyan Giant

DFB
Resilient Cherokee Wax
Dakota Bumble
Poroto Huancabammba

Semi French bean
Ugandan Bantu

Ornamentals
Sweet pea - Matucana
Nicotiana sylvestris
White branched foxglove
Targeted patula 'Boy Spry'

Salad leaves
Doucette d'Algers

Quote from: ruud on November 02, 2025, 13:45:09peppers for the circle:demre-t
                      tepecik yakon
                      sahnali
                      urfa
 

That's great, Ruud. And thanks for the links. Şahnalı is a new one on me. And Urfa is a great pepper. You donated it to the circle ages ago, 2020 I think, so it will be very good to have fresh seeds.