tomato calculator for my book your opinion requested.

Started by plainleaf, January 23, 2012, 21:28:17

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Digeroo

Like Grawrc I am confused.  I certainly do not like to give any transplant shock.  I usually put them out during the day in a sheltered position and gradually get them used to the wind etc.  Even after planting out they might get fleeced or cloched up on cold or windy days.  I would reckon to try and keep them above about 7C as much as poss.  I might also try and pick a warm spell of weather, but the forecasts are notoriously unreliable in their predictions here.

Acclimation and acclimating are not words in my vocabulary.  

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Acclimatization

http://davesgarden.com/guides/articles/view/914/

Though this article gives good info re hardening off, author must come from near you.

Davesgarden defines acclimation as hardening off:

http://davesgarden.com/guides/terms/go/2161/

I think you will find in gardening we here in the UK just call this hardening off.

I do think we are getting problems with nomenclature.  Looks like we will need a translation.

I think we also call succession planting Catch cropping.

Then there is intercropping - two different crop at the same time
and Companion planting  - growing flowers etc amongst the veg to attract bees and deter pest.

I spent years working with charts, figures and spreadsheets.   I still find your charts rather daunting.  I do think you need to run them past a cross section of people to see how they get on with them.  

Digeroo


Ophi

It would look good over two pages Plainleaf.

If you are going to produce comprehensive charts like this for most vegetables, I have to say that I would be tempted to purchase.  I love charts and know that I would use them often even if I had to do a slight visual conversion with frost dates.

Digeroo

If you will not tell us in rather more detail what you are using the charts for, it is rather difficult to say which one is best.

plainleaf

aj
1.interval planting and succession planting are same thing:
the term means plant the same crop several times over a period of time to spread out the harvest.
example: if plant 4 blocks of same variety of corn.  one block ever week
spreads the harvest over 4 weeks.


2.succession cropping: is plant two different crops one after the other is finished.


aj

Quote from: plainleaf on January 24, 2012, 17:59:50
aj
1.interval planting and succession planting are same thing:
the term means plant the same crop several times over a period of time to spread out the harvest.
example: if plant 4 blocks of same variety of corn.  one block ever week
spreads the harvest over 4 weeks.


2.succession cropping: is plant two different crops one after the other is finished.



So what's interval cropping then?

plainleaf

#25
aj don't know since don't use that term

digeroo
1.chart one predicts harvest from set seed start date using dtm .
2.chart two uses seed start date  change then calculates it for each dtm group

given same start date and dtm both charts give same results

ps i will be posting revised version of chat tonite.

aj

Quote from: plainleaf on January 24, 2012, 20:49:43
aj don't know since don't use that term

Yeah you did - look - I've put it in bold for you below...

Quote from: plainleaf on January 24, 2012, 16:15:59

the book title is following
" Tactical Vegetable Gardening: A guide to Succession Cropping,Interval Cropping &
Companion planting.

Robert_Brenchley


plainleaf

well i meant interval planting. but since coined to term accidentally
I guess get to define it Interval Cropping is when you plant more then 1 varieties of a crop the have different dtms thus spread you harvest over a greater range of time then you would have with one variety. 

Chrispy

May I ask why you have done the chart for tomatoes? It is not the sort of thing that lends it's self to succession/interval planting.
If there's nothing wrong with me, maybe there's something wrong with the universe!

plainleaf

Chrispy i would disagree with you on that. it is done like that quite easily with determinate varieties.

Chrispy

I don't understand.
When I grow tomatoes, they continue to crop until the frost kills them (or for the outdoor ones on my allotment when the blight gets them).

On your chart, it gives a 10 day period for harvest, I just assumed this this was the start harvest window as I am just aiming for the longest harvest period.

I understand different variaties have different cropping times I am having that dilema at the moment, but whatever I grow I want the longest possible cropping period, so they will go out as early as possible, and they will come out as late as possible.

If you want a follow on crop, then this would mean removing healthey productive plants, is this what you do?
If there's nothing wrong with me, maybe there's something wrong with the universe!

plainleaf


aj

What's the aim of this book in the first place? Who is the audience?

plainleaf

#34
aj title should make that it obvious
Tactical Vegetable Gardening: A Guide to Succession planting, Interval Planting &
Companion planting.

plainleaf

i will posting revised version of each chart tomorrow based off suggestions.

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