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Thinking about getting a outdoor grape vine can any of you guys recommend one

Black grape, Baco 1 - not prone to mildew, smallish grapes good for eating or wine. Mine is on the back of the shed, facing South.

Hi Frog ,  Hi Jen do you grow any green grapes my littlen loves them so I wanted to buy the one's just for eating any ideas. Will pm you about JA's during the week any day will suit.   ;D ;D ;D ;

I do well with a black "Regent against a wall in sunny Derby






;D

Lovely pictures
how old is it?

The middle pic is sept 05 and it went in the previous Oct... so about three years old.
It is very vigerous and the trick is to keep cutting it back... even used some of the leaves for Dolmades(?)
;D

Not sure if you could find them, but here are a few sorts of grapes grown in Sweden:

'Sukribe' and 'Zilga' (both self fertilizing)

I believe it is Zilga that the allotment next to mine has and they're delicious. Tart and tasty,

Also Blue Burgandy, Lakemont, Muscat of Alexandria, Vino Nordica, Shuyler.

I fancy a Lakemont, a white seedless variety... has any one grown it outside this far north (Derby).
???

Frogs legs, try this site, i found it excellent for service, price and will answer any questions you have.

http://www.winegrowers.info/index.htm


David

saddad  :o :o :o! those pics are outstanding! i am deffinately going to be buying a vine for my southfacing wall, and if it looks half that good i'll be over the moon. have you got any top tips? also, is it growing in a container?  thank you gg xx

The pictures do look great Saddad love to have one of them seat thingys with all them grapes growing over and your daughter looks like shes really enjoying herself.  ;D ;D ;D

hi

i found this useful http://www.newhallwines.co.uk/VinesCare.htm

and i got my first vine from http://wine.hillyheights.co.uk/ via ebay for £2

It has not survived and hes going to replace it for me :-)

I am looking to put 6 vines down my plot ( not expecting much of a crop as its so windy ) trained on wire between posts ( 1 vine and one climbing plant on each 8ft pannel.

Cambourne7

It's straight into the soil tho that collar does confuse the idea. It grows really well over the Arbour and Betty (89) likes it too! I still don't thin enough either bunches or grapes within bunches... I can bear to cut out 1/2 but really need to cut out 3/4...

mine will be more of a wind break :-)

Grapes a bonus

Frogslegs
depends what you want to do with the grapes - we used

Quote from: DavidW on January 27, 2007, 16:44:44
Frogs legs, try this site, i found it excellent for service, price and will answer any questions you have.

http://www.winegrowers.info/index.htm


David

in 2004 when we set our garden up, and found them really good - lots of sensible advice and prompt service.

If you want to make wine, Orion produces a really good white one here in south Champshire - my first attempts were shockingly good - and Saddad's Regent makes a very pruney/fruity/port-like red here.  Pinot noir seems to be basically bird food, so needs netting (found out the hard way, still not a drop to drink!) :(.  I'm going to try some pinot gris in a greenhouse next.  I don't know where you live so maybe e-mailing Derek@winegrowers.info would be a sensible first step.

Good luck with it, I think they are great plants to grow!

Hi saddad does Regent suffer with mildew,the one Ive got at the moment suffers terrible and thats why i wont to replace it. And if it grows that good in Derby think it shoud do well in Nott's

P.S. The one i got is called Muller Thurgau. ;D

I've never had a single leaf with Mildew (YET)..... ???
:)

I have just remembered the name of the green grape that I grew which suffered badly from mildew, it was Madeleine Angevine - although I have heard it recommended by other people, I had no luck with it.

@froglegs,

QuoteThe one i got is called Muller Thurgau.

"müller-thurgau" is one of the most vulnerable varieties, as far as mildew/peronospera is concerned.
"regent" should succeed without any treatment or one at the most if it rains a lot during flowering time.
both varieties are suitable for wine making.