small winter cabbage. Are there any?

[strawberry1]

I have grown tundra and drumhead but they are massive and I don`t have a lot of space. I have some minicole on the go and they are harvested up to december. Are there any other varieties that can grow in a small space and which might overwinter well in the cold?

[strawberry1]

[manicscousers]

We do greyhound as an overwinter, smallish, pointy, also, hispi, not too big, and red fuego, just for a change , but we grow them for summer use  :)

[davyw1]

Tarvoy (autumn Cabbage) which will see you through the winer then to follow on Spring Hero (spring Cabbage)

[strawberry1]

Thank you, I already ordered some greyhound this morning, very cheap at 1000 seeds for 99p. It sounds as though they mightalso  be ideal to interplant amongst my sprouts and broccoli. I`m going to look the other varieties up now, I am already growing a red called red alert. I grew red drumhead the last two years and they were great cabbages but really too big and had to be cooked and frozen in portions

[saddad]

A "cheat" is to put them out a month or two later than you would... so they have less time to grow into monsters...  :-X

[Digeroo]

Putting them out late sounds like a good idea but last year it was so dry some of mine were very very small more like large brussel sprouts. :o

[strawberry1]

Mmm, I really think there is an opening or cabbage breeders here. Not many of us want 4 kg cabbages these days and  I had to make lots of sauerkraut last year. I have decided to put my hard headed hat on and  to give away the wonderful strong tundra and red drumhead plants that have been carefully grown in root trainers under environmesh.

Hispi have been transplanted out and I`ll set too with the greyhound when they arrive. Minicoles are doing fine and growing slowly in root trainers. Oh I do like a ballhead for coleslaw in the winter though

[PAULW]

I am with Strawberry, minicole are a good small cabbage and they will stand for three months without bolting, kale makes a good standby and easy to grow.

[kt.]

What about planting closer together so they dont have the room to spread and grow too large?

[strawberry1]

Yes I agree re kale. a fab and easy green veg. I only have a small plot, in effect 8 x 100 feet and that includes the compost bins, shed and fruit and 4 rotations, , so every sq foot of space is accounted for. I have a similar dilemma re the tall greens and tbh I am going to have to be ruthless with the psb in favour of red russian, which I find more versatile. Lol, I have learnt the hard way re planting too much in an 8 x 4 cage, which I did with tundra which it got covered in whitefly, which it shrugged off and I ended up with great cabbages but they were a struggle to get through

[PAULW]

One year I grew minicole under brussels and had a good crop

[Robert_Brenchley]

I've given up growing hearting cabbages since we only use a little. These days it's kale and non-hearting cabbage.

[strawberry1]

Ahh, excellent Paul. I`ll do that  ;D

[chriscross1966]

I'm trying minicole this year, it will either have to share a cage with the brussels or get the bigger of the netting tunnels over it... trying to get a few more brassicas this year as I do eat them and I love bubble and squeak