Composting, advice please

Started by manicscousers, April 17, 2011, 17:11:47

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manicscousers

 ???
Just been reading in Grow your own mag about Bokashi composting. The answer about it says
"If you were thinking of taking your kitchen waste (composted or uncomposted ) from your home to your allotment, you should be aware that this is illegal as a result of legislation enacted after the 2001 foot and mouth disease epidemic which means you must use the compost at home"
Is this because of composting other than veg and fruit waste?
advice really appreciated  :)

manicscousers


Bugloss2009

how interesting. The answer seems to be no to all kitchen waste, because there is a chance veg peelings  will have come into contact in the kitchen with meat products.

from a council info thing

Government legislation prevents us from collecting and composting kitchen waste because of restrictions in place to prevent an outbreak of foot and mouth disease. The composting system used by the council involves long, pyramid-shaped stacks of waste being left on concrete slabs to rot in the open air. Fruit and vegetable peelings are likely to have come into contact with meat products in the kitchen and there is a chance that meat could be contaminated with foot and mouth. Therefore, these materials cannot be composted in the open air where they could be spread by the wind, or by birds and animals.

Although the risk of spreading foot and mouth disease in this way may seem small, government legislation requires every possible precautionary measure to be in place. Given the devastating impact of the 2001 foot and mouth outbreak on rural communities it is vital that the council closely follows government guidance on this issue.

Tin Shed

Presumably vegans and vegeatrians are exempt then ;)

grannyjanny

Someone else mentioned this last year & I wondered then what the reason was.

lincsyokel2

who is going to tell if you do it, who is going to bother stopping you?

How many people even know of this rule? Its a load of rubbish!! (or compost, in this case).
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Tonythegardener

How many cows do you have down your allotment? ???

goodlife

Therefore, these materials cannot be composted in the open air where they could be spread by the wind, or by birds and animals.
No..it would be bit difficult to compost 'in the open air'...but if I put it in closed compost bin =darlek...then the waist is not 'in the open air'...and it's safely tucked away from birds.
Now..how does the council keep their food waste 'under lids' and away from the open air when they dump all the food waste there..all the birds, foxes and rodents must have licence to only eat at the premises and clean themselves before exit from the area.... ::)
There is plenty of over flowing bins too that is are in RISK of spreading foot and mouth.. ::)
Didn't they at the time of that outbreak blame some foreign meat that was bought into country..now how did they come to idea that it is now veg peelings that cause it..haven't we had peelings around for centuries without any problems.. ::)
Some clever one has been bored in office again....and his thoughts have been wondering bit too far this time >:(

Robert_Brenchley

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The question nobody seems to be asking is how long does the F&M bug survive outside the body? Some pathogens - American Foul Brood in bees, for instance - last for decades while others, like HIV, have a very short lifespan indeed. Obviously this has a massive impact on the way waste needs to be treated.

We know, for instance, that  have spread it from farm to farm on their shoes, so it's very infectious in the short term. But is it still infectious a week later? A month? Ten years?

lincsyokel2

Quote from: Robert_Brenchley on April 18, 2011, 20:21:18
The question nobody seems to be asking is how long does the F&M bug survive outside the body? Some pathogens - American Foul Brood in bees, for instance - last for decades while others, like HIV, have a very short lifespan indeed. Obviously this has a massive impact on the way waste needs to be treated.

We know, for instance, that  have spread it from farm to farm on their shoes, so it's very infectious in the short term. But is it still infectious a week later? A month? Ten years?

Most farm pathogens rarely last more than a year, especially over winter.
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Morris

Quote from: goodlife on April 17, 2011, 20:19:26

Now..how does the council keep their food waste 'under lids' and away from the open air when they dump all the food waste there..all the birds, foxes and rodents must have licence to only eat at the premises and clean themselves before exit from the area.... ::)
There is plenty of over flowing bins too that is are in RISK of spreading foot and mouth.. ::)



Our council won't allow food waste in green garden bags for this reason, yet most people, as you say, put peelings etc into wheelie bags that then go to landfill. Daft.

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