Lottie full !!! What next ??

[carbonel11]

Have planted last square inch to today, so wheres the rest of the stuff going to go  :-\
Still want to plant winter and spring brassicas including psb and black kale.
have leeks,pumpkin, squash, courgettes and cucumbers to go in soon.

Swede ???
More peas ????
melon???

Have 3 beds of pots which will come out over next few months and legume bed which will be harvested gradually as successionally planted plus have prepared top of compost bins and manure heap for planting.
Any ideas on what might work where? ;D

[carbonel11]

[Deb P]

Trailing squash good anywhere, around the bases of brassicas, sweetcorn, beans, even tomatoes. Later brassicas either replace harvested ones, or follow on after potatoes. Leeks can also go after spuds. Think vertical for cucumbers and melons, any wall of frame space they can climb up? Oh, and put your name down for another plot whilst you are at it...... ;D

[Hector]

trailing squash?

[Deb P]

Ones that rampage everywhere and will climb or meander through other things, as opposed to some (most) cougettes that do not trail.

[pippy]

Ahh - it's not just me who starts to scratch my head a bit at this time of year then!  I worried about it last year, but this year I'm a firm believer that you can shoe-horn and squeeze al sorts of things in.  My squash are in between my overwintered broan beans at the moment - so they can take over when the beans come out ... last year I put herbs and rocket in between young fruit bushes, and that was quite successful too.  Perhaps someone should do a thread on 101 ingenious places to grow a courgette plant ?   ;D ;D ;D ;  bet Cornykev will have some interesting ones .... :o ;)

[1066]

Have to admit to a very similar scenario. Also waiting for the spuds, broadies and garlic to finish (never thought I'd say that!)
I'm thinking upwards you could train squash and cucumbers - do you have any convenient fencing? One of the ideas on this board used those cheap rose arches over paths for beans and squash etc.
Not sure what to suggest for the brassicas tho  ???

Other than that do you really need a path  :P

1066

[saddad]

If you can't get another plot sell some plants, or give to neighbouring plotholders... they may have space and return some of the produce if they do well...  :)

[carbonel11]

 Thanks for all the replys will certainly give some away, already done some but you know what allotmanteers are like ( I've got even more back in return  ;D seems rude to say no  ;D)
Currently am eyeing front lawn, OH is out with Offspring number one, is it worth the divorce proceedings ????

[Columbus]

Hi all,  :) Space creating ideas ...

I grow my cucumbers vertically, up a fence like a bean fence but made of wire pig-fencing. I used to grow pumpkins on top of my leaf mould piles. I have a roof garden on my shed (its for flowers this year but probably strawberries next year).
I have three levels of planting under my trees, think vertically,  ... Trees at the highest level, fruit and rose bushes in the middle, rhubarb, strawberries, flowers and herbs at the lowest level.

I got another plot .... then another  ;D

Col

[Hector]

Do birds/squirrels go for squash? This is making me wonder inf I can grow them over mesh roof of dog kennels, with roots in soil and grow up mnarrow space till roof bit?

[Jokerman]

wouldlike a pic of the roof garden - sounds great!!!    :D

[GrannieAnnie]

Do birds/squirrels go for squash? This is making me wonder inf I can grow them over mesh roof of dog kennels, with roots in soil and grow up mnarrow space till roof bit?

We've never had problems with birds/squirrel eating squash. Last year some  Italian trombone
squash grew up the fencing around the tomato patch and happily took off into tall shrubs so I helped it along with strings so it could go from shrub to shrub. It didn't harm any of them and we had a steady crop all summer. Another squash covered a tall azalea  and did no harm either.

A cucumber grew happily up a small pie cherry tree despite the partial shade. You'd probably want to protect from dogs if they could bother the roots.

[GrannieAnnie]

wouldlike a pic of the roof garden - sounds great!!!    :D

ditto!

[PurpleHeather]

I have just seen on of those magazines betterware I think which have useful things all be it a bit on the dearside.

They have a plastic bag contraption with a picture of a tomato growing upside down from it. It would mean having brackets on the side of a house or garage I suppose.

The over wintering things can be put into bigger pots and kept aside until July even if need be.

I think we all start looking around to see where we can squeeze in some extra bits in at about this time of year.

The flower bed will hide a few bits which can look fine as foliage.

[Columbus]

wouldlike a pic of the roof garden

Mine? when all the flowers are in bloom I`ll take some pictures.

At the moment its just a couple of wooden boxes sitting on the shed roof. (My shed roof is flattish)

One is a wooden box built on a palette with a slot for drainage, it came out of a skip like that, it nearly killed me to move it. I had to hide it in a hedge and go fetch a trolley. It took three of us to get it up to the shed roof. The other is a smaller wooden frame, just for contrasting height.
I stained them green. I stain every wooden thing on the plot green. (Except the bird box)

Anyway this thread is supposed to be about space saving. I think vertical is the way to go. And intercropping. My fruit bushes are too close together which can be very scratchy at harvest time, but I still get a huge crop.

Col

[Digeroo]

I once grew a pumpkin up an apple tree.  Gave several people a bit of a surprise they could not believe an apple could grow that big. 

You have to be careful with italian trombone squash.  If you stand still too long they climb up your legs. ;D ;D ;D

[kingston boy]

Running out of room is part and parcel of this game so this year i've used the space between my early strawberries to grow late carrots. They look good at the mo'

[GrannieAnnie]

This thread made me take a fresh look at the veg garden for one more area and I found space along a fence behind squash so stuck in some miniature ornamental corn seeds (taken from last Fall's wreath). A few plants ought to be enough for us and the raccoons.

[kt.]

Cobra french beans.  Grow them up canes. (6ft tall plus!!)