foxes and fox cubs

Started by fuchsia, June 05, 2008, 22:09:38

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fuchsia

I `m on a site with a about a hundred plots. This year our two residents vixens have produced four cubs. There are houses surrounding the whole of the allotment site. A lot of people feed the foxes in the houses and also they are fed on site with fox food with mange medicine in, as people bring their dogs to the site. I have about a 6 or so people that now have it in for the cubs and their mums and keep trying to scare them off the site saying they are damaging their plots. I have spoken to them nicely about the law and how it is an offence to distress them and scaring off the site will only result in another family of foxes moving in but they are continuing to make life difficult for them.
Any ideas on how to resolve this issue?
Thanks

fuchsia


Mr Smith

I think there is nothing worst than the public feeding wild animals like foxes and badgers, personally I would not even treat them for mange just let the vermin die.

ceres

We tolerate them on our site because the boundaries aren't fox-proof and the damage they do is relatively minor.  But they have to fend for themselves, feeding wouldn't be tolerated.  You are allowed to take measures to rid your property of foxes, (the DEFRA website has a good explanation) so there probably aren't any laws being broken by people trying to scare them off.  Sounds like maybe you need a compromise solution given that you appear to have both 'lovers' and 'haters'?

Buster54

We were saying the other day that we thought there would be wild rabbits roaming the allotments after the veggies but an old timer said it was because there was a couple of opportunist foxes roaming the site although I have never seen one upto now
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djbrenton

You could leave some poisoned biscuits out as bait for the 'haters'  ;D

bridgehouse


While I agree with you about feeding wild animals thus making them depend on humans, They are wild animals, and not vermin, live and let live I say. the world is for every living creature including man, and he is the biggest destroyer of all .
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Mr Smith

Sorry in my book they are vermin and before the anti hunting bill was brought in I would of been down on them with my lurchers and my mates terriers,  if I was on those allotments there would not be a VERMIN problem.

Robert_Brenchley

Foxes keep rodents down, and we had chickens for years in Cornwall, with foxes all around, and never lost one. Personally I like having them about, but I woulsn't feed them. There are too many dangers already in a city without giving them the idea that humans are their friends.

Mr Smith

Agree foxes do keep rodents down when they are not fed scraps by humans and when a fox does leave any scraps along come the rats to clean up,

Si D

We've foxes on our site.  On my plot they've worn a track across the middle of it (which is now one of my paths) and dig the occassional hole here and there.  This I can easily put up with as it is nothing compared to the enjoyment of watching the cubs play fighting or of talking to the adults as they sit on the end of the plot and watch me dig of an evening.  Just a pity that all the plots where thefoxes lived are now taken and there are more people on the site, so less likely to see the foxes this year I think.

I remember that my dad kept chickens for years.  Never had a problem with foxes.  In fact he had more trouble with the foxhunters damaging his land.

Do the people who are complaining about the foxes on your plot actually have any evidence that they are causing any serious problems, or are they just the type that are out to destroy everything that doesn't fit into their blinkered view of the way the world should be?

good7saint

Quote from: Mr Smith on June 06, 2008, 07:30:52
Sorry in my book they are vermin and before the anti hunting bill was brought in I would of been down on them with my lurchers and my mates terriers,  if I was on those allotments there would not be a VERMIN problem.
On the site I have just moved onto, there are a lot of rabbits.
But there are foxes on site as well feeding off the rabbits.
One of the other plot holders told me the other day he has seen a fox with a rabbit in it's mouth so they are feeding off the rabbits.
In my book nature is the best pest control
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OllieC

We have a manky old fox that visits our plot - I've seen 2 pigeon carcases & there's no rabbits. I've also had a little bit of digging, but only in 2 places & I think it was to get at rats. All in, I prefer the fox to the alternative. My ex-gamekeeping and still shooting uncle cannot get his head around that, but I'm not growing partridges!

Mr Smith

Don't have aproblem when vermin feeds off vermin.

RosieMcPosie

proud owner of a lottie since August 2007!

silly billy

Quote from: Mr Smith on June 06, 2008, 07:30:52
Sorry in my book they are vermin and before the anti hunting bill was brought in I would of been down on them with my lurchers and my mates terriers,  if I was on those allotments there would not be a VERMIN problem.
Haaaaaaaaaa haaaaaaaaaaaaaa so glad you can do sweet fa about them now that hunting has been banned and long may it continue.
I don't have the answer Fuchsia . I feed the badgers in the land around my home with a few peanuts every now and then and me and my dogs sit and watch them for hours. We have the odd inbred who tries to harm them and I have had to chase the odd one away. Best of luck.
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Mr Smith

Silly Billy,
              Can't do fa about it now ;D ;D ;D ;D if you say so ;)

silly billy

My idea was to build Liverpool into a bastion of invincibility. Napoleon had that idea. He wanted to conquer the bloody world. I wanted Liverpool to be untouchable. My idea was to build Liverpool up and up until eventually everyone would have to submit and give in. Bill Shankly.

Mr Smith

Billy,    We have our own laws in Leicestershire when it comes to field sports ;)

silly billy

I have always found it strange that grown men get their jollies from killing defenseless animals. Oh well what ever turns you on I suppose. I will say no more.
My idea was to build Liverpool into a bastion of invincibility. Napoleon had that idea. He wanted to conquer the bloody world. I wanted Liverpool to be untouchable. My idea was to build Liverpool up and up until eventually everyone would have to submit and give in. Bill Shankly.

Robert_Brenchley

A|t least they either kill the animal or they don't. They don't leave it with its leg blown off like people with shotguns often do. They've also got an interest in maintaining a healthy fox population rather than exterminating them, and in maintaining the right environment for them. Personally I'd let the hunts be. It's not my thing, but each to his own.

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