dwarf broad beans

[caseylee]

I have just ordered some of these seeds, and was wondering if any has grown them before.  I believe you can do them as patio plants.  I am looking to doa few at home, but also wondering if they can be grown outside at  the lottie, and do they get quite a few pods on them, and does picking them help more to grow.
Thank you

[caseylee]

[saddad]

What is thevariety? The Sutton is quite small...
???

[caseylee]

It is the sutton dwarf ones, are they ok for outside, I will have about 20 plants planted ( got a thing for patio veg lol) and roughly how many would you get off one plant.
Sorry another question can you recommend a good outdoor one with a high yeild please

[sawfish]

You should get about 12 - 16 pods off a plant and they're perfect for outside too. I like masterpiece green longpod for outside, very green beans and more flavour than the others I've tried.

[caseylee]

can I plant them now in my cold greenhouse

[sawfish]

Yes, you could plant them outside now. Better in pots though.

[caseylee]

do they grow like a bush variety or do I need canes to support the, I understand they are really small.

[Skippy]

I've grown them for the last three years and they grow well in North Yorkshire.  Mine grew to about 2 foot tall, but I've found it's more productive where I am to sow 5/10 beans at a time, every few weeks as I get chocolate spot.  I just keep growing new plants because the beans die quite quickly once they succumb to this disease, and so it's not worth waiting for a bigger crop. They normally only need staking when they have a lot of pods on them.

[caseylee]

sorry to sound silly what is a chocolate spot

[Biscombe]

I keep trying others but keep going back to aqua dulce, a great outside broad bean. We get high winds here so I plant 3 beans together in a tight block, no wind damage as yet and had some belting winds this year! will take some pics this weekend.....................

[saddad]

Choclate Spot is a disease like rust, it affects the leaves and stems... causing them to go brown and die... most BB's get some in a normal season..
:)

[Skippy]

Sorry not to reply earlier, but yes, chocolate spot is a disease that affects the leaves and stems, you get chocolate coloured dusty marks, that gradually spread.  I didn't get this until recently, and last year it was quite bad, with fewer beans that normal.  So that's why I am trying to get rid of the plants as soon as I can.  It's a bit of an experiment really, hope it works!

[gunnerbee]

You should get about 12 - 16 pods off a plant

i must be doing something wrong!! only usually get one or two?

[Skippy]

I normally get a good yield too, but we are very lucky at my lottie in North Yorkshire, as we seem to have the ideal conditions.  They like a well drained, moisture retentive soil (doesn't almost everything?!) and a sunny position.  My main problem is my soil is too free draining, so I dig in a lot of well rotted compost, not for the nutritional value, but for it's moisture retaining qualities!  Do you have a heavy or clay soil perhaps gunnerbee?

[adeymoo]

Sorry to divert the thread but it relates to Sutton broad beans

I started of some broad beans indoors 5 weeks ago and as got bigger I moved them to the cold frame. When the cold frame was moved to new allotment I did not move the beans and they have been exposed to cold nights. What I have noticed are feathery growths at the top and around the stem whose tips have blackened. They do not look like flowers - can anyone indicate what they are and have I caused irreversible damage? Are Suttons really ok in extreme temperatures?