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roxy

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Advice, please
« on: April 04, 2011, 20:25:29 »
Hi, I'm new to Allotments 4 All. Does anyone know what is a reasonable amount of time to expect someone to remove their stuff from an allotment when they give up the lease. We've been on our plot for 18 months and the bloke that had it before has suddenly started coming on to our plot and taking up flagstones. Not sure what to do. Don't want to cause friction, but it seems to be to be completely out of order. Any advice appreciated.

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Re: Advice, please
« Reply #1 on: April 04, 2011, 20:45:45 »
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Re: Advice, please
« Reply #2 on: April 04, 2011, 21:01:53 »
We normally allow 2-3  weeks. After 18 months it would be quite out of order. Take it up with your committee or the council.

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Re: Advice, please
« Reply #3 on: April 04, 2011, 21:02:09 »
Does the bloke still have a plot on site.........If not he should.nt be on site
Is there a committee......... speak to them or your lease holder
He shouldn't come on to your plot unless invited........ this is a no no on most plots
Is he a big bloke.   If not I'd t##t him, the last bit was a joke.    :-X
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« Reply #4 on: April 04, 2011, 21:03:57 »
When they give up the lease, they leave what's there. So it's yours. (Which also applies to the rubbish they've left - on my plot, half a Morrison shelter!! Don't ask what happened to the other half....)

But how has he suddenly started coming back on site? Shouldn't he have surrendered the key?

Don't you have a Committee?

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« Reply #5 on: April 04, 2011, 21:35:25 »
no way should this be happening,the cheeky b*****d! as others have said,call in the committee/council.did he even say anything to you,or ask if you minded him being there?
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« Reply #6 on: April 04, 2011, 21:44:56 »
going on someone elses plot is a nono, completely. Tenancy terminations usually  specify that you should leave the plot in the same condition as you found it.......!.....but waiting 18 months is a joke

you could always take up the flags yourself. take them home, and put them back when this idiot has stopped sniffing around. When you put them back, they are (of course) different flagstones, and taking them is obviously theft etc etc

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« Reply #7 on: April 04, 2011, 21:49:14 »
and if the guy asks where his flagstones have gone you could say

1. I thought you had taken them
2. obviously someone else has seen you helping himself to other people's property, and they thought they'd have some too

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« Reply #8 on: April 04, 2011, 21:57:32 »
Umm since its now your plot, i'd threaten to call the police and have him arrested for theft. Its your plot, and you now own everything on it.
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« Reply #9 on: April 04, 2011, 22:01:40 »
we are so outraged we all forgot to say welcome to the forum,welcome!
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« Reply #10 on: April 04, 2011, 22:11:39 »
dont put up with it report him to the police or do what i would do

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« Reply #11 on: April 04, 2011, 22:39:54 »
welcome roxy  :) and as others have said don't put up with it, its c****y behaviour

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Re: Advice, please
« Reply #12 on: April 05, 2011, 05:15:41 »
Sorry Roxy, welcome to the crazy world of allotmenteering.  ;)
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Re: Advice, please
« Reply #13 on: April 05, 2011, 09:06:51 »
Thank you so much for all the advice. It's reassured me to know I'm not over-reacting. The bloke does still have a plot on site (right next to me unfortunately) which is how he has access. I'm going to speak to the committee rep today. Thanks again.  I already feel part of your online community.   :)
Your last comment made me laugh.


Does the bloke still have a plot on site.........If not he should.nt be on site
Is there a committee......... speak to them or your lease holder
He shouldn't come on to your plot unless invited........ this is a no no on most plots
Is he a big bloke.   If not I'd t##t him, the last bit was a joke.    :-X

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Re: Advice, please
« Reply #14 on: April 05, 2011, 09:11:27 »
Oh that's a bit unfortunate. Hope he's not the resentful type  :(
Still, it's our of order, he should have spoken to you a long time ago about the flagstones, honestly. And if he wants them back, i mean you ask, you don't just go and take them!
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« Reply #15 on: April 05, 2011, 09:29:58 »
If he wanted anything from the plot he was giving up then he should have taken them before his tenency expired.
Lets hope that you have a committee will stand up to him.
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Re: Advice, please
« Reply #16 on: April 05, 2011, 09:32:27 »
Roxy , This should be left with the committee , any plot-holder who takes anything off another plot without consent should get evicted. I would not get personalty involved, put your objection with dates / items in writing to the secretary , I would demand return of items failing this say you will complain to the council ( landlord).

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Re: Advice, please
« Reply #17 on: April 05, 2011, 09:47:39 »
i would tread carefully l know that he's not entitled to take them now he has vacated the plot but if he's on the next plot to you don't want to end up falling out with him.
if it was me i would have a word with directly before involving anyone else  :)

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Re: Advice, please
« Reply #18 on: April 05, 2011, 10:01:37 »
Yes, that's what's worrying me because I think he is likely to be the vindictive type (a real smiling assassin with the emphasis on 'ass').  ;)   I'm going to get the advice of the committee before proceeding. Thanks again to you all for the support; it's made me feel a lot better.


i would tread carefully l know that he's not entitled to take them now he has vacated the plot but if he's on the next plot to you don't want to end up falling out with him.
if it was me i would have a word with directly before involving anyone else  :)

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« Reply #19 on: April 07, 2011, 18:46:10 »
He ought to be evicted without question, if you've got the evidence to back up what you say.

 

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