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19P a LITRE
« on: January 31, 2011, 19:14:55 »
A British company has invented artificial petrol that emits no green house gases, and could cost  as little as 19p a litre at the pumps. Cella Energy the Oxfordshire based firm that is developing the fuel, and uses hydrogen which is currently much cheaper than oil.  Though a figure of 19p has been suggested, it is expected that the motorist would pay around 60p per litre with the addition of Government fuel Tax This is true on the news today they are not saying how much the garages would put on top for selling it . Tesco is £1-29p .99p a litre here yet mile down the road Asda sell the same product for £1-24p.99p Dose this mean  they will be building  10 star hotels in London  and closeing Abu Dhabi
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Re: 19P a LITRE
« Reply #1 on: January 31, 2011, 19:26:29 »
it will never come to market the oil company's will buy it up and bury it :'(
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Re: 19P a LITRE
« Reply #2 on: January 31, 2011, 19:35:12 »
More than likely is that Cella Energy license the product to the oil/energy industries and make a lot of money.  Unfortuantely they are the only ones with the supply chains to get fuel around the country. 
It could actually be a very significant discovery - no alterations to existing engines is hugely important as is the lack of requirement for pressurised tanks. 
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Currently the product is still in testing and is expected to be available in three to five years.
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Re: 19P a LITRE
« Reply #3 on: January 31, 2011, 19:36:55 »
ITS supposed to be on the market within 2 years it could be a pork pie but the oil countrys  will only produce to demand so the price is outrages.  Not in our life time  what does everyone think
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Re: 19P a LITRE
« Reply #4 on: January 31, 2011, 19:41:00 »
I`m knackered, I have a diesel engine car. ;D ;D ;D
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« Reply #5 on: January 31, 2011, 19:44:00 »
Hydrogen fueled cars, just like electric cars, aren't zero-carbon per se, it all depends on where the energy comes from to produce the fuel.  If the energy is produced from renewables then yes, it's zero carbon, but if the energy is generated conventionally then no, it has the same carbon footprint as petrol.  So it's quite possible to have a hydrogen car with a carbon footprint, and a bio-diesel car with no carbon footprint.  What we really need is a renewable source of energy, and particularly one that doesn't compete with food crops for land resource, though of course it does no harm to invent hydrogen-storage technology so we don't all drive around in little Hindenburgs.  Wind power is not a bad way to generate hydrogen fuel because one of the problems with wind power is that you can't rely on the wind to blow, so you just stockpile the fuel on windy days.
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« Reply #6 on: January 31, 2011, 20:00:50 »
Solar furnaces together with wind power could be part of the answer to "making" hydrogen.
As unwashed has said the only real answer is to use renewables to get the hydrogen - this is one part of the puzzle but not the whole solution..
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Re: 19P a LITRE
« Reply #7 on: January 31, 2011, 20:43:17 »
Solar furnaces together with wind power could be part of the answer to "making" hydrogen.
As unwashed has said the only real answer is to use renewables to get the hydrogen - this is one part of the puzzle but not the whole solution..



The solution to what, exactly?
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« Reply #8 on: January 31, 2011, 21:28:43 »
Well you know the whole oil running out/being too expensive thing and the need for alternative fuels and delivery solutions to enable us to continue to have the personal mobility to which we have become so accustomed and the worldwide distribution networks that we rely on.
I know petrol etc is far more expensive than it would be without tax etc but the cost of oil and petrol worldwide is increasing and looks set to increase with more demand from India and China.  That makes just about everything more expensive as well.  Sooner or later we need a new way to fuel transport - this could be part of the solution as to how we achieve that. It may not.
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