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I miss Geoff. I can't say that Joe Swift did anything for me. However, before we dismiss him i think we should bear in mind that his allotment slot would have been planned well in advance of filming. This means that at that time they would have been looking at the non-gardeners and trying to get them interested. The thirty to forty group have a substantially different outlook to those of us in the 50's to 60's or even those of us in our 70's and 80's. They might find the appeal of the triangular beds because it got the old f**ts talking about it and not about what they were doing "wrong". It is right and proper that every younger generation should explore the boundaries. Haven't some on here tried "raised beds" and decided to get rid of them. That is their choice.If Joe made it easy for the non-gardeners to "join in" just like Geoff did for me well good on him. Yes many of us may not like the idea of him "dropping" in on an allotment. But we can't say how much that worked. I just hope that those people that have joined my allotments stay and continue to enjoy their gardening. Best wishes to Joe in his endeavours, whatever they may be. At least, in his own way he is trying to help, just like javascript:surroundText('',%20'',%20document.forms.postmodify.message);Geoff and Bob and all those on "mud and magic".After all growing veges is secondary to enjoying life.Bill
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Are you saying that he spent less than a year on the allotment wrote a book about it and then just abandoned it, what a cheek. :o