Author Topic: San marzano toms. (Read 7249 times)

carolinej · « **on:** May 18, 2007, 22:43:02 »

Hello :)

I have 2 SM tom plants in my conservatory in black pots. They have grown about 12 inches high, but very spindly. Now they seem to have no leading shoot, and I have taken off all the side shoots. The leaves are yellow, with red stripes. Altogether very unhealthy looking.

Should I bin them and replace them with something else?

Thanks

cj :)

MrsKP · « **Reply #1 on:** May 18, 2007, 23:14:26 »

I sowed mine late so they're quite tiny atm, but healthy green looking though.

I've found a big difference with say the Tigerella which is tall and spindly, the cream sausage that has skinny leaves and Biscombe's Muchamiel which is a veritable forest.

It's quite interesting watching them all develop their individual style lol

I've packed a pop bottle collar filled with compost round one of the Tigerellas to develop a better rootsystem.

Marymary · « **Reply #2 on:** May 18, 2007, 23:19:22 »

Could it be your compost!??

I'm growing a few SM & they seem to vary a lot. From the same packet I've got normal leaf plants and potato leaf plants!

carolinej · « **Reply #3 on:** May 18, 2007, 23:22:27 »

Could well be the compost, as it is rubbish!

cj :)

gridgardener · « **Reply #4 on:** May 19, 2007, 07:57:54 »

sound like you kill you plant by over pruning and improper growing methods.
Oh well those who follow bad growing methods kill there plant before bugs do.
Advice for future do not prune you tomato plants until you learn how to grow them in the proper manner.

carolinej · « **Reply #5 on:** May 19, 2007, 08:40:12 »

Oooh gridgardener, you certainly know how to make friends on a new forum :-*

cj :)

MrsKP · « **Reply #6 on:** May 19, 2007, 08:48:00 »

lol, I thought it was a bit harsh too ! Old griddy hasn't put up a location, so might not be English as first language ? Something lost in the translation perhaps.

;D

legendaryone · « **Reply #7 on:** May 19, 2007, 08:49:06 »

He is a silver tongued devil isn't he ? ;D ;D

He is on several forums and it appears he is American but lives here.

MrsKP · « **Reply #8 on:** May 19, 2007, 08:52:49 »

explains a bit ! 8)

Jeannine · « **Reply #9 on:** May 19, 2007, 09:12:05 »

Gosh Caroline, I bet that one hurt,have a hug honey.

Gridgardener. I would like to think you meant your comments to be useful but I think you should suggest them in more friendly way they came accross as incredibaly rude and sarcastic.

This forum is like a large family, you hurt one of us ,you hurt us all.

It was very unkind and you are not likely to make many friends this way.

Caroline, XXXXXXXX Extra XXX Jeannine

carolinej · « **Reply #10 on:** May 19, 2007, 09:14:43 »

Thanks Jeannine,

you are right, it is just like having an extended family on here. I am proud to be part of it.

cj :)

Rhubarb Thrasher · « **Reply #11 on:** May 19, 2007, 09:22:07 »

Notwithstanding Mr GrumpyPants remark, it is best to remove sideshoots (or not)??

my San Marzano are the most vigorous of the toms i'm growing. Most of the Heritage type ones are very slow growing. Maybe they didn't like the cold

MrsKP · « **Reply #12 on:** May 19, 2007, 09:33:49 »

Quote from: Rhubarb Thrasher on May 19, 2007, 09:22:07

it is best to remove sideshoots (or not)??

everything i've read points to a yes, so when mine are big enough, that's exactly what I'll do!

;D

Rhubarb Thrasher · « **Reply #13 on:** May 19, 2007, 09:40:30 »

Mr Fothergill says yes too, but I never believe what he says - the picture of him on the packets makes me think he's a bit simple-minded and can't be trusted

MrsKP · « **Reply #14 on:** May 19, 2007, 10:06:07 »

but he tries hard and God loves a trier. :P

Jeannine · « **Reply #15 on:** May 19, 2007, 10:10:04 »

It is described as an interdeterminate so I would remove XX Jeannine

Melbourne12 · « **Reply #16 on:** May 19, 2007, 10:45:23 »

I have to say that I don't like the sound of the yellow and red leaves. It's always a worth a try to save them, though. I know the trusses haven't set yet, but why not try a general purpose soluble fertiliser when you next water them?

carolinej · « **Reply #17 on:** May 19, 2007, 10:52:31 »

I have tried that , along with putting pelleted chcken manure int ehpots to try to do something. Will the yellowy leaves turn back green or are they done for now. There is some green on the top leaves now.

cj :)

Melbourne12 · « **Reply #18 on:** May 19, 2007, 10:56:00 »

We thought we'd lost some of our earliest toms because of windburn (they were put out too early). The leaves turned yellow and a bit scorched. But actually the plants recovered, with nice new green growth higher up, so it's worth giving them a chance.

But if they've got some sort of virus infection, then the new leaves will also go bad ways, and the only safe thing would be to destroy the plants and indeed the compost in the pots.

Jeannine · « **Reply #19 on:** May 19, 2007, 11:07:38 »

Caroline, if you think it is the compost and you think you are losing the, try this.

Take the plants out of the pots, gently rinse all the soil off the roots till you have clean roots, then repot in better compost. It might work and better than just chucking them without a try. I have done this with a waterlogged very precious houseplant that was going stinky and dying fast and it worked. XX Jeannine

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