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why is xmas in winter?
« on: December 08, 2005, 18:05:59 »
why is xmas in winter?  couldnt they put it in summer?

Have been putting xmas lights up outside now for about a week and a half. No, it isnt going to look like blackpool alluminations. it just takes time!

Two more sets to go up tomorrow, big rush now to get them up! then thye get turned on...yipee!!  will take some pictures when they are all up.

Anyway, back to the title, its freezing, two nights now i have been out in the dark, and have come in with icicles cuming off from my fingers! if it was in summer, it would be warm and the it wouldnt be dark so early!!!  grrrr!!!

anyway,  merry xmas!  ;D  ;D  ;D

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Re: why is xmas in winter?
« Reply #1 on: December 08, 2005, 18:15:05 »
Head south Adam, then you can enjoy Christmas on the beach, barbies and all.

Oh and one other thing ... bah humbug ...  ;D ;D ;D

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Re: why is xmas in winter?
« Reply #2 on: December 08, 2005, 18:39:15 »
Thing is Adam, if it were in summer, your lights wouldn't be very interesting until after 10.30pm as it is light until then!!

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Re: why is xmas in winter?
« Reply #3 on: December 08, 2005, 18:44:10 »
It is in winter because this is when the pagan festivals are.  Solstice is of course on 21st December and the celebration is that things get better from hereon so lets have a nice cheery festival during these dark days.  The Romans had there mid-winter festival actually on 25th December and it is this pagan date that the Christians nicked - it was the only way of getting the pagan locals on board.
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Re: why is xmas in winter?
« Reply #4 on: December 08, 2005, 18:50:41 »
Never managed with this pagan!

Bah Humbug!
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but I missed my bed
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Re: why is xmas in winter?
« Reply #5 on: December 08, 2005, 18:56:02 »
Then do something about it!!!!

Many years ago..the girls were young teenagers and we said this one Christmas...Why is Christmas in the cold dark winter

During one day in the next July the Governor and I decorated the room, put up the tree, the Governor cooked a full Chriistmas dinner with Chriggie pudding and we wrapped pressies
When the girls came home from school were they surprised...we had dinner wearing paper hats and pulling crackers...are we mad...course we are....but did we have fun

Go on...go for it  ;D  ;D

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Re: why is xmas in winter?
« Reply #6 on: December 08, 2005, 18:57:44 »
Christmas is not "in winter" Adam - it's on 25th December! Which depending on where you are in the world is during spring, summer, autumn, winter.........

My uncle takes great delight in bragging about his Christmas BBQs in Oz, and sends cards featuring Father Christmas wearing red shorts and a red teeshirt!!!
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Re: why is xmas in winter?
« Reply #7 on: December 08, 2005, 19:19:16 »
yes i thought about that, the only people who get warm summers are those who get warm winters!!! grrr,    arnt they mean!

Love the idea Derek. dont think the nieghbours will mind, they think i have got everything the wrong way round when i was cutting the lawn in Mid November.  ;D

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Re: why is xmas in winter?
« Reply #8 on: December 08, 2005, 19:52:03 »
It is in winter because this is when the pagan festivals are. Solstice is of course on 21st December and the celebration is that things get better from hereon so lets have a nice cheery festival during these dark days. The Romans had there mid-winter festival actually on 25th December and it is this pagan date that the Christians nicked - it was the only way of getting the pagan locals on board.

I got a slightly different version! 

It is the 25th because the records said that Jesus was born on the 25th.  No one knew when though so December was selected so that the Christians had something to celebrate along side the Pagansbecause once they converted they had to denounce the paganism.   Therefore by celebrating Christs birth then they could still party.   Originally it was January 6th (and still is in Holland) but I don't why on that one!
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Re: why is xmas in winter?
« Reply #9 on: December 08, 2005, 20:05:53 »
The calendar was changed in the 18th Century but some churches still go by the old Julian calendar, which went back to Julius Caesar and had got out of synch with the sun. The late Roman church was very much into hijacking pagan festivals; in Britain we still name Easter after an old pagan goddess, with the result that some extreme fundamentalist churches claim that celebrating it is 'worshipping' pagan gods despite the fact that it originates from Passover. I don't know when the Saturnalia, if it was the Roman version, became Christmas, though doubtless it's out there on the Net somewhere.

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Re: why is xmas in winter?
« Reply #10 on: December 09, 2005, 14:38:02 »
Originally it was January 6th (and still is in Holland) but I don't why on that one!
well originally you were given presents on the 6th jan, as according to the story this is when the wise men arrived with their gifts. makes sense, no?

present opening for is the 24th december, btw ;D
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Re: why is xmas in winter?
« Reply #11 on: December 09, 2005, 15:17:13 »
Christmas in summer is loverrley! BBQ on the beach followed by a game of beach cricket of course!!

Two of my families Chrissie food traditions are New Potatoes and Raspberries - not a sprout for miles  ;D

I feel compelled to share with you the Aussie version of Jingle Bells:

Dashing through the bush,
in a rusty Holden Ute,
Kicking up the dust,
esky in the boot,
Kelpie by my side,
singing Christmas songs,
It's Summer time and I am in
my singlet, shorts and thongs

Oh! Jingle bells, jingle bells, jingle all the way,
Christmas in Australia
on a scorching summers day, Hey!
Jingle bells, jingle bells, Christmas time is beaut!,
Oh what fun it is to ride in a rusty Holden Ute.

Engine's getting hot;
we dodge the kangaroos,
The swaggie climbs aboard,
he is welcome too.
All the family's there,
sitting by the pool,
Christmas Day the Aussie way,
by the barbecue.

Oh! Jingle bells, jingle bells, jingle all the way,
Christmas in Australia
on a scorching summers day, Hey!
Jingle bells, jingle bells, Christmas time is beaut!,
Oh what fun it is to ride in a rusty Holden Ute.

Come the afternoon,
Grandpa has a doze,
The kids and Uncle Bruce,
are swimming in their clothes.
The time comes 'round to go,
we take the family snap,
Pack the car and all shoot through,
before the washing up.

Oh! Jingle bells, jingle bells, jingle all the way,
Christmas in Australia
on a scorching summers day, Hey!
Jingle bells, jingle bells, Christmas time is beaut!,
Oh what fun it is to ride in a rusty Holden Ute



And there is also a Rolf Harris song about Santa's sleigh being pulled in the southern hemisphere by 6 white kangaroos!
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Re: why is xmas in winter?
« Reply #12 on: December 09, 2005, 16:21:16 »
Love it Moggle !!!

Derekthefox :D

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Re: why is xmas in winter?
« Reply #13 on: December 09, 2005, 16:35:37 »
He he he! My daughter has a different version to Jingle Bells too - but it's because she's 4:

Jingle bells, jingle bells, jingle all the way
MacDonald's farm it is to ride in a one horse open sleigh

And apparently the Little Donkey is carrying a precious loaf!
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Re: why is xmas in winter?
« Reply #14 on: December 09, 2005, 18:17:35 »
Thanks for the one Moggle - it's a beaut!

I've just sent off prezzies to my rellies in WA. Will be thinking of them all on the beach at my Aunt and Uncle's ........

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Re: why is xmas in winter?
« Reply #15 on: December 09, 2005, 18:59:54 »
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And there is also a Rolf Harris song about Santa's sleigh being pulled in the southern hemisphere by 6 white kangaroos!
I knew it.. I should have immigrated to OZ?

                             
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Re: why is xmas in winter?
« Reply #16 on: December 09, 2005, 21:36:05 »
Too many Australians there for my liking ;)

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Re: why is xmas in winter?
« Reply #17 on: December 10, 2005, 00:22:05 »
Well I have never been, so I can't really offer an opinion, and the thought of travelling all that distance ...

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Re: why is xmas in winter?
« Reply #18 on: December 10, 2005, 01:36:00 »
Erm (talks in a very quiet voice) ... I am heading off to New Zealand on Monday for a wedding and will stay there for a southern hemisphere Christmas. I can't wait!!!

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Re: why is xmas in winter?
« Reply #19 on: December 10, 2005, 10:11:46 »
Two of my great nephews who have lived in Australia for quite a number of years say that they still cannot get use to eating Christmas dinner sitting in the sun

 

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