grawrc,you always have people who knows better,but he is right about mariannes peace,it was a mistranslation,but kardinal is the dutch way of spelling cardinal.A lot of tomatoes got different spelling,what do you think of tomatoes from russia?they got odd names for us,but not for a russian.The weather was warm and wet overhere.Grawrc it is mierenneuker but i wont translate it in english if you dont mind ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D