I started some plants off this year, but after planting out a mole went right up through the line and uprooted them. As it was very dry they were too withered to replant. But when we started growing them I did look them up and noticed while surfing that a lot of jam recipes came up in the search. I did grow some more but they are still small plants in pots and under glass. They also said they can be used as a half hardy perennial, so I will over winter them and try again next year.