Thankgoodness Ace is on holiday. I know he thinks they are a weed.
They look nice on a bomb site
Why bother with seed, you can strike a cutting so easily, just nip off a bit next time you see one you like. Another good flowering shrub/weed is eiderflower, bees love them and if you get the black leaf sort like ravens wing you get a bit more interesting plant. Same thing just nip a shoot and strike a cutting. Another
pest plant you could try is lilac, just don't keep pruning it otherwise it starts running underground. I prefer to use ceanothus as a boundery hedge, blue or white, they are stunning shrubs and once again easy to propogate.
