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Sarah,I agree with Ken entirely. No new starter should be given a plot that is unworkable. The council should have an obligation to clear the plot first and hand over a plot suitable for cultivation. They wouldn't give a football team 6 lengths of wood and tell them to make their own goalposts, cut their own grass and mark out their own pitch! Why should an allotment holder be expected to work on something that resembles a tropical rain forest. Could anything (apart from vandalism) be more disheartening? Lance
Unfortunately , a lot of councils do just that.......I took one over in October 2003, and despite promises from the council to remove the old iron, plastic etc from my lottie, I still have an eight foot wide strip at the bottom of my allotment waiting to be cleared. I can't even burn any of it because its against the rules! Everytine I fone up I get " Oh! did we say we'd do it?" or " Are you sure we said that?" or......"Its the contractors.........they are supposed to have been round!"Whatever it is, I would love to pay a reduced rent for the land I've been unable to use, but I'm afraid I might get put off altogether if I got that militant.Liza