Yes - hindsight, hindsight!!
I know I should stagger them, but it never seems to work out.
The home sown are Startrack & Alcazar. The Dobies ones are Pancho & Poribleu (the latter pictured). And yes, all ours are going funny, but I guess it's as much to do with creeping white rot as the weather. I feel that they can only get tough & stemmy from now on. Shame! = Tim