Topic: Knives

[ninnyscrops]

Site was broken into last night, they bent the barbed wire down, and 14 padlocked storage boxes were broken into. It would appear that no tools were missing but two knives were taken from separate places. 

Just a warning, as the yobs can't buy them over the counter they might be targetting allotment boxes/sheds.

[good7saint]

Luckily it is not a problem for me.
As I leave all of my tools at home and just take the tools I need for the job I am going to be doing, when I go to the plot.
That can be a bit of a problem though, taking the bigger tools like rakes on the bus.

[tim]

Knives? Nasty thought!

[silly billy]

We are experiencing a batch of break ins. Haven't had any for a couple of years but now they are breaking the locks off but taking nothing. I will have a nice surprise for them when they target mine..........going to leave my dog in the shed 1 evening for an hour  ;D ;D ;D

[good7saint]

Just a thought about what I do.
If I needed to take a knife for a job on the allotment, where would I stand if I was stopped by the police on the way there.

[Suzanne]

We are experiencing a batch of break ins. Haven't had any for a couple of years but now they are breaking the locks off but taking nothing. I will have a nice surprise for them when they target mine..........going to leave my dog in the shed 1 evening for an hour  ;D ;D ;D

If the dog bites them it may be subject to a destruction order if they choose to pursue it - the fact that they broke in wouldn't negate your responsibilities, the same way as if you leave physical booby traps. If the dog isn't aggressive and if they are complete b******s they could also give it a bit of a kicking. Neither outcome good for the dog.

[twinkletoes]

good7saint - I reckon cos you are an adult you would probably be charged with carrying an offensive weapon - however, if you were a child - you would probably go home with a slapped wrist at most! Cynical......moi????   ::)
twinkletoes

[jennym]

I take a knife too, and often have one if going out to do minor gardening jobs for others, but also at the same time have secateurs, trowel, shears, string etc. It's fine to have a tool like a knife about you as long as it's carried safely and is used for your trade or hobby and you can reasonably justify it.l

[Rhubarb Thrasher]

you could get into trouble potentially if the blade was longer than 3 inches (or maaybe that's changed), and you couldn't give a reasonable explanation for carrying it. here's the story of a woman who was charged but was able to show she needed it for cutting sausages

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/2071537/Woman-arrested-with-knife-'saved-by-sausage'.html

[silly billy]

We are experiencing a batch of break ins. Haven't had any for a couple of years but now they are breaking the locks off but taking nothing. I will have a nice surprise for them when they target mine..........going to leave my dog in the shed 1 evening for an hour  ;D ;D ;D

If the dog bites them it may be subject to a destruction order if they choose to pursue it - the fact that they broke in wouldn't negate your responsibilities, the same way as if you leave physical booby traps. If the dog isn't aggressive and if they are complete b******s they could also give it a bit of a kicking. Neither outcome good for the dog.

Thats a very interesting point you make suzanne. I wonder if that would apply to my house as both my dogs are very good guard dogs when it comes to protecting my children. Its like a switch they are totally devoted to my family and welcome my friends but any unknowns are not so welcome until they know they are ok. I have been told that its a mistake to put up "beware of the dog" signs as this is an admission on my part that the potential for harm is there but I don't know about if they attacked an intruder.

[lorna]

Years ago when we owned a Haulage business and Garage the police told us we could be prosecuted if either of our German Shepherds were to bite someone even if they were trespassing. The yard had several warning notices which just said "Dogs Loose" To safeguard ourselves we took out Insurance.

[Suzanne]

I raised this as a neighbour of ours a few years back had two dobermans. A burglar broke into the house at night whilst they were in bed upstairs and the two dogs gave the burglar a bit of a seeing to before the owners managed to get down to call them off. The burglar sued them successfully, the dogs were threatened with destruction but given a last chance, i.e. if they bit again they definitely would be put down.

To be quite honest if you are up to no good and breaking into a house then I think you deserve what you get - but the law doesn't see it that way.