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Tee Gee

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annis horribilis
« on: June 26, 2007, 15:34:15 »
I have gardened for 30years+ and I think this is the worst year I have had in all that time.

A number of records have been broken this year what with the mildest winter, driest March, Hottest April and wettest June and the poorest cropping I have ever had.

I am seriously thinking of giving up allotmenteering and if we get another mild winter I think I will.

This year as I have mentioned before my garlic crop was poor (too put it mildly) I picked my Japanese onions this morning and they were just as poor.

I have mildew on my onions, my beans (all types) failed as did my parsnips. I have had about one bunch of flowers off my sweet peas.

I was picking what few strawberries I have when I came across a cache of unripe berries which I can only guess has been put there by squirrels ( now I know why I have had so few) similarly all my gooseberries have gone.

This added to some bloody idle gardeners either side of my plot is just getting me down.

These two plots have had six seperate owners over the last three years and both are wildernesses and it it is from here I think all my diseases particularly the fungal diseases are stemming from.

Each of the new tenants that come on, state they want to grow organically which is fine by me providing they do it correctly, but the trouble is they don’t!!

Correct me if I am wrong but true ‘organic’ gardening is a much more difficult  a task than non organic because you must know what you are doing and why!!

It is also more labour intensive (or should be) and that the crutch of the matter these people are not aware of this, then when their crops fail (and they do) the give up leaving their problems behind, or should I say ‘my problems' behind!!

The little cultivation they have done makes the ‘wildernesses’ more prolific meaning that weeds grow in abundance and it is the seed and diseases these weeds create that are my biggest problem.

To be quite honest I would prefer if the plots were left fallow at least there would not be the abundance of seed and disease habitats about.

A few of us on the plots were having a chat on the ups and downs of this year and on the one hand we are happy with hot wet and sometimes cold weather but when you get the months out of sequence i.e. June Showers and flaming April  this is not conducive to good growing weather, so as I said if we get another mild winter I will be seriously thinking of giving up.

Apologies for my rant but I am totaly p****d off with gardening at the moment and just had to get it off my chest!

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Re: annis horribilis
« Reply #1 on: June 26, 2007, 16:14:01 »
Rant away TG, my wintering onions are poor as well, parsnips and carrots needed resowing to finish off full rows and with climate change we never know whats going to happen with the weather. But when you sit down and think about it I'm sure you will not give up allotmenting, and where would we be without your advise, if Henman can get through we all can, happy digging.  ;D ;D ;D
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Re: annis horribilis
« Reply #2 on: June 26, 2007, 16:17:15 »
Hate to say it, but I'm having one of my best years ever :o

Peas, turnips, raspberries (oh, so many raspberries!!!) cropping heavily. Beans racing up the canes. All the brassicas doing well.

I really thought things would be bad given the weather but the only thing struggling have been carrots - which have all failed - and beetroot.

Sorry

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Re: annis horribilis
« Reply #3 on: June 26, 2007, 16:18:52 »
 :( Oh Tee Gee, don't give up.......imagine how I feel, this is my first year...and I've got floods to contend with now as well  :-[

but your an inspiration to me, and, I'm sure a lot of others on here too.................I read your pearls of wisdom all the time and have learnt more from them than any book I've got  :)

so for me and all the other newbies, please don't give in .  :-*
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Re: annis horribilis
« Reply #4 on: June 26, 2007, 16:21:27 »
Hi there

Rant away TeeGee but I know that you are made of sterner stuff than just to throw the towel in.  As this is my first year growing in the Uk I have had quite a few problems but when I get down I think - well, its got two chances - Live or DIE!  

I also have a wilderness next to me and at times it is disheartening but just think - next year is another chance to do better.  Don't let others steal your enjoyment and be a bit kinder on yourself.  Isn't there that poem about always planting 4 seeds - well this year nature wins! and you get the scraps.

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Re: annis horribilis
« Reply #5 on: June 26, 2007, 16:25:18 »
Hello

I think everyone is feeling the pressure of this weather i thought it was meant to be flaming june not pi**ing june excuse me but i am really fed up with with weather and i feel very sorry for all those who's plot have been ruined.

This more like autumn weather not summer i think we had our summer in april.

I am on a losting battle with bindweed it's on the rampage i can't keep up with i have also 2 jungle gardens next door to me i have a selection of nettles and bramble and thisles and mares tail in my next door garden which is about 6ft high with this rain, i have taken 6 buckets of bindweed off my roses in the last day or 2.

I hope you feel better Tee Gee how you have had a little rant i don't blame you at all
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Re: annis horribilis
« Reply #6 on: June 26, 2007, 16:30:05 »
Carrots & parsnips more or less non-existant, garlic half-size, autumn onions gone to seed, lettuce eaten by slugs, mangetout a right-off, gooseberries eaten by pigeons, strawberries finished, melons doing nothing.....

But are we down-hearted? Oh course, but......

Broad beans brilliant, more globe artichokes than we can cope with, loganberries loving it so wet, tons of sugar snaps, courgettes just starting, spring-sown onions looking good, already eating GH tomatoes......

And next year will be totally different! Don't give up, Tee Gee!

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Re: annis horribilis
« Reply #7 on: June 26, 2007, 16:38:10 »
Our loses far outweigh our sucesses this year, But not hit by the awful flooding (touch wood, not tempting fate etc.)

Please don't give up TeeGee, your website and advice has been invaluable to a newbie like me, and I am sure that others would agree....

Rant away, it does it good to get it off your chest. ;D
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Re: annis horribilis
« Reply #8 on: June 26, 2007, 17:02:15 »
TeeGee..

Don't do anything hastily please.

I think what is happening to many of us is a bit like grieving,at least that is how I feel,  it has several stages, you are in an angry stage which hopefull will pass.

I would not presume to tell someone of your experience what to do, but I would dearly miss you and please just ask you to bide a while.

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Re: annis horribilis
« Reply #9 on: June 26, 2007, 17:06:04 »
er um i seem to be having a good year!! with my leg in plaster for the whole of april (yes very hot) every thing was late going in and whatever we got was going to be a bonus carrots ,parsnips,swede all germanated first time (rare)lots of strawbs goosegogs and rasberrys beans sweetcorn all fine got to agree about the winter all the cabbages got slugged and i have a nieghbour who adds loads to make his super dooper fertile and forgets it works on weeds as well
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« Reply #10 on: June 26, 2007, 17:19:04 »
I'm with you Tee Gee... It's been a hopeless year!
I've never had it so bad... every kind of disease on everything and stuff that I've never seen before :o

BTW, don't give in!
« Last Edit: June 26, 2007, 17:20:41 by Si »

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« Reply #11 on: June 26, 2007, 17:59:50 »
Bit hit or miss for me so far.  Toms are only just flowering after growing like mad, then stopping stood still, no garlic due to white rot, 50% Japanese onions okay, rest rotten, spinach bolted whilst still only babies, carrots germinated patchy, more gaps than carrots - have resown so hoping for a late show, parsnips only germinated last week, peas eaten by the deer that is now residing on our allotment, the resprouted but are now going to be late, runner beans failed to germinate or were eaten when I wasn't looking, so have had to resow, they are now through and growing.  Lost melons, marrows and crystal apple cucumber to slugs and snails.

We also have several plots that are head high with weeds and grass.  It drives me bonkers as they both neighbour my 2 plots, and on a breezy summers day (when it isn't raining!) I can see all the seeds drifting over my allotment to keep my busy!

On the upside, I have plenty of courgettes, raspberries and strawberries.  The spuds so far have been great, thanks to this rain, on my chard hasn't bolted.  The same with the lettuce thanks to the rain and it looks like I have several tiny cucumbers forming.  My broadbeans are finally filling out, fingers crossed the netting keeps the birds/squirrels/mice/voles/rats/deer away from them.

And of course, I can't do anything seriously on the allotment until late August early September, so it is going to be a jungle by then.

We all have good and bad years, successes and failures.  For me, the failures make the successes even sweeter.  You just wanna see the size of my raspberries!

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Re: annis horribilis
« Reply #12 on: June 26, 2007, 18:47:53 »
HI TeeGee,

Dont give up, and if you cant rant here where can you :-)

I have had an odd year 2 but at least i am not under water.

Cabbage i though i had planted turned into caulis.

Winter cabbage i was give a couple of weeks ago has turned into broc.

My over wintering onions dont look like there ready to pick as the tops are still quite green and in the last 6 weeks have grown more than 4 times in size. http://s109.photobucket.com/albums/n61/cambourne7/Allotment/?action=view&current=DSC00326.jpg

Weeds are a massive problem on my plot but as you can see they have all be cut down and now i need to pull up whats left and put in more beds and new paths. http://s109.photobucket.com/albums/n61/cambourne7/Allotment/?action=view&current=DSC00335.jpg & http://s109.photobucket.com/albums/n61/cambourne7/Allotment/?action=view&current=DSC00334.jpg  both post stimming

I have covered my carrots in a closh to warm them up as they have not really grown much in the last month since they germinated. Where as the parsnips i planted at the same time are over a foot high.

Tomatos are green and i have take 5 little red ones off for tea http://s109.photobucket.com/albums/n61/cambourne7/Allotment/?action=view&current=DSC00336.jpg

First Crop of spuds came out today http://s109.photobucket.com/albums/n61/cambourne7/Allotment/?action=view&current=DSC00332.jpg

First crop of beatroot also came out http://s109.photobucket.com/albums/n61/cambourne7/Allotment/?action=view&current=DSC00331.jpg there a little slug attacked but i can cut that bit out

I feel flustrated that i cant get things the way i want them but i have leart to accept what i can not change.

Off to work out what to do with my mini harvest http://s109.photobucket.com/albums/n61/cambourne7/Allotment/?action=view&current=DSC00337.jpg

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Re: annis horribilis
« Reply #13 on: June 26, 2007, 19:44:08 »
It`s not much fun going out in the morning to see that the snails and slugs have wiped out yet another row or that the pigeons got amongst the kohl rabi or that the basil(something I do pride myself in) looks sick-but we carry on . Because, and sing along -----------


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« Reply #14 on: June 26, 2007, 19:53:46 »
Teegee, I know it won't make you feel any better, but to know that someone of your experience is having poor crops this year does make us amateurs feel better! I'm feeling guilty, too, though, cos I'm sure my neighbour feels the way you do about my weeds! I do try, though, just haven't got the time to get all of them out.
Daren't look at the long range forecast but there MUST be better things ahead!And what would you do with your time if you weren't allotmenteering?

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« Reply #15 on: June 26, 2007, 21:24:24 »
 :) your just having a bad day Tee Gee,

my cut flower garden ie roses are under water

after a fantastic crop the rest of my strawberries have rotted

overwintering onions had white rot

Brussels and pots are now under water

broad beans flat to the ground

some apples have apple sawfly

french beans are getting eaten by slugs and snails

raspberries going mouldy

are you feeling  better yet? ;D ;D

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« Reply #16 on: June 26, 2007, 23:27:24 »
one fruit setting on 39 tom plants ................. but am i disheartened ??  not a bit.

have been cutting courgettes for a week now and am wondering where I'm going to put the new freezer that will be needed to store them all.

am not looking forward to being flooded out over the winter (a certainty by all accounts), so no over wintering onions for me this year and all the fruit bushes will have to find permanent homes on the plot rather than the lottie.

my expectations aren't high, so i'm still thrilled when I harvest anything at all.

can't you peeps with overgrown adjacent plots do some covering up of your own to keep the weeds down.  I know it's not your responsibility but it does seem to be your collective problems.  Or have a word with the C'tee and see if you all can't get some group support for dealing with the wildernesses to keep them in check.  ???

and what exactly would you do in March if you didn't have a plot to fill ?   :P

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« Reply #17 on: June 27, 2007, 07:38:52 »
Just give it another year and you will probably feel differently. We are all so grateful for the advice you give TeeGee. I have only been a member for 12 months now and I have learned so much from reading your posts. Your decision on my onion trouble has helped everyone on my allotment site. We are definely going to need your advice as to how to get going again after all this water has stopped pouring down on us.. Please think again  xxxxxxx
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« Reply #18 on: June 27, 2007, 07:57:59 »
Garlic's good, overwintering onions are good, but I'm so far behind that a lot of things are a tossup. It's not the weather though, it's work. I'm just thankful that I've managed to do enough earth moving over the years that the flood last week flowed straight off: the worst thing I know is to have water standing on the plot for days on end. Cheer up, you're not the only one with problems!

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« Reply #19 on: June 27, 2007, 09:16:38 »
I'm really sorry you are feeling like giving up... :(

I too am having a bad year. There are much more snails and slugs around than last year and I lost so many seedlings. I sowed lots of beans and most have been eaten, only a few managed to survive.
Onions were terrible. They bolted very quickly and I'm left with a hundred onions with rotted stem in the centre and some suffered from white rot.
Garlics were unbelievably small. They yellowed far too early and didn't bulb up properly.
I had strawberries cropping abundantly but woodlice and slugs ate half of it.

I feel disappointed but refuse to give up. Gardening (particularly vegetables) cheers me up most of the time and without it I would be one depressed woman. ::)

Hope you feel better soon. Don't give up. :)

 

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