Thank you Emaggie, I am getting used to the idea... One of the best bits of my day was OH finally agreeing to having an allotment ;D ;D ;D We have a large veggie patch in our garden but I have always wanted to grow more. I took him up to the allotments yesterday and he got quite excited, can't wait for the lady who organises them to come home off holiday now, before he changes his mind. I know we will have to go on the waiting list but it is real progress. ;D ;D