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Help!...Identification Needed!!
« on: June 06, 2005, 20:20:52 »
Grew these seeds from free seeds from GN Magazine/Paper.

Not sure what they are as I lost the indetification tag, I am hoping they are Dalia's so can someone please confirm this or tell me otherwise...thanks.

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Re: Help!...Identification Needed!!
« Reply #1 on: June 06, 2005, 20:34:13 »
er...Cannabis?   :-X

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Re: Help!...Identification Needed!!
« Reply #2 on: June 06, 2005, 20:57:29 »
that was my reaction too!

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« Reply #3 on: June 06, 2005, 21:12:42 »
LoL!!! That was my reaction too...uh-oh  :-X...LoL I got them from a magazine....Gardener's News  :o....surely it's not. :-X

Perhaps I should send them a sample of there plants... ???

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« Reply #4 on: June 06, 2005, 21:13:14 »
Ohhhh dibber  :o    :D

I apologise for chuckling, ;D ;)
Lets hope someone can come up with a different idea, fingers crossed  ;D

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« Reply #5 on: June 06, 2005, 21:14:01 »
Not Dahlia, or cannabis in fact.

Lupin?

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« Reply #6 on: June 06, 2005, 21:53:36 »
sanders thanks for the suggestion of lupins but i have also grown lupins this year and they look nothing like them , i just wish i know what it was as i have planted 20 of them in my border they look very healthy just have to wait and see if they flower

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« Reply #7 on: June 06, 2005, 22:06:20 »
Look more like Ricinus than Dahlias to me. So whatever you do don't eat the seeds!
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« Reply #8 on: June 07, 2005, 07:39:36 »
palustris what is Ricinus never heard of it  is it a weed ,and why cant u eat the seeds not that i would also the plants smell just like tomotoes plants.

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« Reply #9 on: June 07, 2005, 08:44:44 »
Ricinus communis also known as Castor Oil plant is often grown as a bedding out plant for its leaves which can be bright red. The seeds and the plant are poisonous, the source of Ricin which was used to assassinate a Bulgarian defector in London some time ago now. He was stabbed with an umberella tip smeared with the stuff.
Google images for a picture of the leaves of the plant.
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Re: Help!...Identification Needed!!
« Reply #10 on: June 07, 2005, 08:46:24 »
 :o I used to have a plant Ricinus communis Castor Oil Plant, Palma Christi very exotic looking leafy plant and it died on me shortly afterward, thankfully as I didn’t realize how toxic it was at the time. :o
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Ricin and Terrorism


Ricin toxin is derived from Castor Bean Plant. Ricin is one of the most poisonous naturally occurring substances known. And now Arab terrorists have been captured with it in London. Ricin is a stable toxin easily made from the mash that remains after processing Castor beans (Ricinus communis) for oil. Castor Oil was once used as an oral laxative, but is now used mainly as an industrial lubricant and for preparing leather products. Castor beans are grown agriculturally worldwide and the plants grow wildly in arid parts of the United States. Castor beans are slightly larger than pinto beans, darkly colored with light mottling, and have a small light-brown cap at one end. They have been described as looking like blood-engorged ticks. The beans are not normally used as food. Poisoning can occur following inhalation, ingestion, or injection of ricin toxin from Castor beans.
Ricin is toxic by numerous exposure routes and its use by terrorists might involve poisoning of water or foodstuffs, inoculation via ricin-laced projectiles, or aerosolization of liquid ricin or distribution of a powder.

http://www.toxi.ch/eng/news_1042220298_29426.html


Didn't a Russian spy get pricked in the leg on London Bridge years ago with Ricin on the tip of an umbrella? That resulted in death :o ??? Lol you beat me to it Eric ;D

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« Reply #11 on: June 07, 2005, 08:49:07 »
 :o Skuse the Language  ???  but b****y hell didn't know that  ??? :o :o
« Last Edit: June 07, 2005, 08:52:20 by Marley Farley »
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« Reply #12 on: June 07, 2005, 09:48:08 »
thanks for the info Roy and Eric but surely garden news would not dish out seeds for a plant that is so poisonous , is does not ring a bell that i had c astor oil seeds the kids help me plant all the seeds and we labeled all of them up but lost the label for this plant. i had 2 packet of dalia seeds and thought this is one of them i will take some more pictures today as i took them late last night perhaps a bit of sunshine on them might shed a bit of light .

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« Reply #13 on: June 07, 2005, 09:55:55 »
 :) Hey dibberxxx I just looked at your picture again & the leaves are not smooth which I thought they would be with castor plant how about POTENTILLA I just found a T & M seed packet that was a freebie & the leaves look very similar  ;D ;D
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« Reply #14 on: June 07, 2005, 09:57:49 »
 ;D Think it may even have been garden news  ;D
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« Reply #15 on: June 07, 2005, 10:04:21 »
Here a few more pictures which I have just took in the morning sunshine and I resized them a bit bigger this time for a better look...

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« Reply #16 on: June 07, 2005, 10:06:34 »
....how about POTENTILLA.....

Hmmmm maybe, but can't remember getting Potentilla seeds either but thanks anyways.:D

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« Reply #17 on: June 07, 2005, 10:17:23 »
 :) No, maybe not as you say, a bit peoni looking perhaps  ??? ???
« Last Edit: June 07, 2005, 10:19:23 by Marley Farley »
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« Reply #18 on: June 07, 2005, 11:45:09 »
Not any paeony that I know of with those hairy stems, nor do I now think it is Ricinus, same reason. Cannot off hand either think of any potentilla with that feature either, but there are an awful lot of them. Leaves are not really dark enough nor 'leathery' looking enough to my mind for dahlias.
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« Reply #19 on: June 07, 2005, 14:24:44 »
 :) No quite right not paeony  ::) but how about chrysogonum golden star  ???  yellow flowers about 1 1/4" long. They have bright green hairy stems & leaves  about 8 - 12" tall & spread  ??? :) This is not a good picture but any help  ??? ??? It is a semi evergreen perennial
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