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#52
Edible Plants / Re: Seed Saving Circle 2025
Last post by JanG - October 30, 2025, 12:11:51
Quote from: ruud on October 30, 2025, 09:26:50https://gardenseedsmarket.com/tomato-zyska.html?srsltid=AfmBOoqE0BrTIjQJCW1irpEJNN_pmQnl9l29Uadlkwwk3C31RA0SYd-Z
zaitska is wrong it has to be zyska.
https://www.tomatofifou.com/en/produit/royal-hillbilly/
https://www.tomatofest.com/Creole_Tomato_Seeds_p/tf-0129.htm
https://www.tomatofest.com/Abraham_Lincoln_heirloom_tomato_seeds_p/tf-0003.htm
https://www.wildboarfarms.com/product/napa-giant/
https://merakiseeds.com/la-cadero-tomato

Thanks Ruud. That's helpful. There is one reference to a Zaitska tomato online https://jardinsdetomates.fr/variete_jdt/zaitska/

But that's quite different. Zyska is a dwarf plum tomato and Zaitska seems to be  a tall plant with a round red tomato.
So the big question is whether yours is a dwarf plum tomato or a tall round red.  :drunken_smilie:

I think your other references are less controversial!
#54
Edible Plants / Re: Seed Saving Circle 2025
Last post by JanG - October 29, 2025, 17:18:58
Quote from: ruud on October 29, 2025, 12:34:23The las two tomatoes are commercial ones.

Yes. Do you mean that the seed will be bought seed that you haven't grown yourself yet?

It would be good to have a bit of information about the different varieties in your list.  Indeterminate or determinate? Cherry, salad, beefsteak etc? Red, yellow etc?
And could you especially give some information about Zaitska. I haven't found anything online about this one. And I can find Super Marmande but not Super Yerli Marmande either. Is it different from both Marmande and Super Marmande? Thanks for any info you can give.
#55
Edible Plants / Re: Seed Saving Circle 2025
Last post by ruud - October 29, 2025, 12:34:23
The las two tomatoes are commercial ones.
#56
Edible Plants / Re: Seed Saving Circle 2025
Last post by JanG - October 29, 2025, 07:44:55
Wow,Ruud. That's a great list. 
I was intrigued by the last two on your list and, because I'm interested in the history of different varieties, did a little research. I found that Domates is Turkish for tomato.
Apparently H 2274 stands for Heinz 2274. I didn't know that the Heinz company has developed various tomato varieties over the years and an arm of the company called Heinz Seeds has released these at various times. Heinz 2274 is good for making sauces, as you'd expect for Heinz, and it was released in around 2008.
And SC 2121 appears to be a popular Turkish variety, possibly developed by Bursa Seeds and first offered in 1986. SC possibly stands for Standard Cultivar to show that the variety reaches a particular standard. It is apparently determinate and an early variety, typically maturing in about 65 to 70 days. The fruits are round-shaped, deep red, with a thin skin, and crack resistant, 160-180 grams per fruit. It sounds perfect!
#57
Edible Plants / Re: Seed Saving Circle 2025
Last post by ruud - October 28, 2025, 14:56:44
I have the following varieties tomato for the seedcircle:pine-apple pig
                                                         royal hillybilly
                                                         grasa de bihor
                                                         creole
                                                         abraham lincoln
                                                         napa giant
                                                         la cadera
                                                         zaitska
                                                         sherill
                                                         christmas tree
                                                         unknown one
                                                         super yerli marmande
                                                         domates H 2274
                                                         domates SC 2121
These are the tomatoes i will contribute to the seedcircle. 
#58
Edible Plants / Re: Seed Saving Circle 2025
Last post by galina - October 27, 2025, 10:53:04
Lots of very exciting beans to come.  Thank you Jang and Ruud. 
#59
Edible Plants / Re: Seed Saving Circle 2025
Last post by ruud - October 26, 2025, 15:59:44
https://biotektohum.com.tr/tohum/alman-ayse-sirik/ this is one of the beans i bought on the market in turkey.The right name is alman ayse.
#60
Edible Plants / Re: Seed Saving Circle 2025
Last post by JanG - October 26, 2025, 12:23:33
Dwarf

Resistant Cherokee Wax. A heavy producer of wax snap beans and black dried beans. Another variety from a Canadian grower. It's resistant to mosaic virus and grows vigorously for a dwarf variety. Introduced in 1959 IMG_6361.JPG

Dakota Bumble This is grown for dried beans. I've included it because it's so pretty. It has three different sed coat pattern, either black, white or white splashed with black. It was apparently an insect pollinated cross of Jacob's Cattle offered originally by  Prairie Road Seeds in US. This 4.jpg


Poroto Huancabamba . Another dried bean variety with an intriguing name and unusually patterned seeds, deep pink with a white splash. Apparently Huancabamba is in northern Peru and poroto is the Spanish word for bean. My Canadian grower obtained it from an American grower. This 5.jpg

Semi

Ugandan Bantu. This is another mixture, this time of seven or eight rather random colours, patterns and sizes, making a very attractive mix. The plants grow to perhaps a metre and twine a little,  so benefit from some support. I haven't been able to find out how long this particular mixture, presumably coming from the Bantu speaking people of Uganda, has been commercially available. It is offered by the Heritage Seed Bank in US who describe it as a landrace. This 6.jpg

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