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Title: Celeriac planting out
Post by: Sam Spade on May 31, 2005, 12:44:32
My celeriac seedlings must be nearly ready to plant out :D. Could anyone tell me how far apart they need to be and what sort of spread they have? Also, is it OK to put them in now? I must admit I haven't bothered to re-pot them as they seem reasonably happy where they are. I thought I would plant them out in a compost lined drill on the allotment - they have been hardened off.  :-\
Title: Re: Celeriac planting out
Post by: legless on May 31, 2005, 13:08:11
this is my first celeriac year and mine are going out this week. the book i read says they need a 30cm radius per plant so i shall be doing this.
Title: Re: Celeriac planting out
Post by: Mrs Ava on May 31, 2005, 13:16:14
Mine went out about a month ago and I have a very scientific way of spacing my plants.....I use my trowel.  So, however long my trowel is, that is how far apart they are.  Already they are growing like mad, which I am very pleased about, so is my celery, which is also great as I have never grown it before, or at least, not successfully!
Title: Re: Celeriac planting out
Post by: Svea on May 31, 2005, 13:26:16
same here, EJ
planted mine about three weeks ago and they seem to have taken :)
the celeriac is slightly furhter spaced than the celery though, in my case. i think the celery will benefit from 'self blanching' by being in a square arrangement, with spacing about a foot each way. or something.

general disclaimers apply :)
svea
Title: Re: Celeriac planting out
Post by: tim on May 31, 2005, 13:45:59
Self-blanching is normally 8" apart or it won't blanch. And some straw in between to help out?
Title: Re: Celeriac planting out
Post by: Svea on May 31, 2005, 13:58:17
ah well, green celery tastes yumy too :)
Title: Re: Celeriac planting out
Post by: Merry Tiller on May 31, 2005, 14:59:55
Don't forget the slugs to go with the straw ;)
Title: Re: Celeriac planting out
Post by: Derekthefox on May 31, 2005, 16:01:52
I plant mine about 10 inches (250mm) apart and they seem happy with that.

As an aside, I was asked by our secretary, how the shops get the really large celeriac, as his (and mine) are only about the size of apples (smaller when peeled).

Does anyone know?
Title: Re: Celeriac planting out
Post by: tim on May 31, 2005, 16:30:30
MT - yes indeed - but I feel that this is one case where the judicious use of bait is justified. And straw does help keep the moisture in, as well as blanch. (I don't use it!!)

Derek - yes indeed. Each to his own. But how nice to be able to save space if you wish! And is it not true that swedes & the like always grow best 'in the field'??

Svea - yes indeed. But some people won't eat green!
Title: Re: Celeriac planting out
Post by: Diana on May 31, 2005, 16:37:30
Mine's only just germinated ???
Title: Re: Celeriac planting out
Post by: Mothy on May 31, 2005, 23:30:28
Ooooerr.....mine went in last weekend, fully hardened off etc  Spacing about 8" apart. Planted Alabaster as EJ had a good result last year. Took ages to germinate but gave & threw loads away as they all seemed to take!!
Need to get a good result as my father-in-law failed with celeriac about 5 years ago and thinks I'm daft trying again.
Title: Re: Celeriac planting out
Post by: Merry Tiller on May 31, 2005, 23:43:05
I grew Alabaster last year & it was as big as yer 'ead, well it was as big as the shop stuff anyway, plenty of space (12" apart) and a long season works for me.
This year I'm trying Monarch for the first time as it's supposed to be smoother skinned, hope it's as good
Title: Re: Celeriac planting out
Post by: Mothy on June 01, 2005, 00:07:25
Hi MT,
Have you got water on your plot? I know that others haven't and my FIL reckons you can't grow celeriac without lots of it. I'm banking on the fact that other folks are in the south east and i'm in the soggy midlands so I stand half a chance.
Title: Re: Celeriac planting out
Post by: Sarah-b on June 01, 2005, 11:29:12
So fellow celeriac growers, are you mulching them with anything?
Title: Re: Celeriac planting out
Post by: Svea on June 01, 2005, 13:17:24
due to lack of mulch, no

other than my dry top inch of soil, that is
nice and moist below that :)
Title: Re: Celeriac planting out
Post by: Mrs Ava on June 01, 2005, 13:45:54
Mine were fine and I have no water.  I didn't mulch them, as I didn't know much about them, and whilst they may not have won any prizes in the giant veg competitions, they were perfect family sized veggies, tasty, juicy, full of flavour and a  s o d  to peel and prepare!!  ;D
Title: Re: Celeriac planting out
Post by: legless on June 01, 2005, 16:46:12
mine have now been planted out and they look great. are they going to be nailed by slugs immediately?
Title: Re: Celeriac planting out
Post by: Doris_Pinks on June 01, 2005, 17:17:47
mine got nibbled last year legless..............just been up at the plot and the evil slimey ones have eaten 5 out of 8 runner beans  :'(  :'(  :'(  :'(
Title: Re: Celeriac planting out
Post by: legless on June 01, 2005, 17:35:17
oh. better not give away my extras yet then. something ate my tagetes. couldn't believe it.
Title: Re: Celeriac planting out
Post by: Doris_Pinks on June 01, 2005, 17:37:13
Amazing how they can search and destroy overnight!  I am off to p[lant more beans!  >:(
Title: Re: Celeriac planting out
Post by: Moggle on June 02, 2005, 11:04:54
My celeriac are still pathetically small. They've been in around 6 weeks  - modules in a mini-greenhouse - and are lucky to be an inch tall. Only one true leaf on them. Anything I can do to help them along?

Don't think I can put them out that small, the slugs would have em in about 30 seconds!
Title: Re: Celeriac planting out
Post by: Doris_Pinks on June 02, 2005, 11:25:54
Moggle some of mine are tiny too, I am hanging on to them! The first lot I did failed miserably germination wise, but the few I did get were awfully slow off the mark, but in the last week seem to have rallied! Maybe they are slow starters! ;D
Title: Re: Celeriac planting out
Post by: Svea on June 02, 2005, 11:45:07
i seem to remember it took two whole months (!) from germination to planting out size with mine. when did you sow yours, moggle?

i know, it seems like an awfully long time, doesnt it?
svea
Title: Re: Celeriac planting out
Post by: legless on June 02, 2005, 13:02:09
am now prepared with 5kg of slug barrier - assuming they made it through the night!
Title: Re: Celeriac planting out
Post by: Moggle on June 02, 2005, 13:50:11
Sowed mine 17/4

Will try to be patient for a couple more weeks and then plant out under pop bottle cloches. I bet they romp away once they've got the space.  ::)

Is it too late to re-sow a few?
Title: Re: Celeriac planting out
Post by: Svea on June 02, 2005, 14:47:09
i would say forget the cloches, just literally ignore them for the rest of june and plant them out at the end (dont forget to water, obviously). i found they suddenly grew much faster when i wasn't watching (watched kettle syndrome ;))

svea
Title: Re: Celeriac planting out
Post by: Moggle on June 02, 2005, 15:02:35
Cloches were more for slug protection than heat, but I will leave em till the end of the month and try not to look at them. That is probably the biggest problem, they are right at eye level and offending me every day with their lack of growth  ;D
Title: Re: Celeriac planting out
Post by: Mothy on June 02, 2005, 22:46:29
I have to say that mine were tiny for ages...literally...then all of a sudden they really romped away and looked quite strong when I planted them out. They were a good 2 months on when they went outside to harden off for 2 weeks.
Title: Re: Celeriac planting out
Post by: Mrs Ava on June 03, 2005, 00:05:58
This drizzle and warm weather has bought mine on no end.  Never to late to sow Moggle, but don't expect big roots.
Title: Re: Celeriac planting out
Post by: legless on June 04, 2005, 15:09:09
amazing. i'm sure they've doubled in size since wednesday, all looking good apart from 2 which are completely missing.
Title: Re: Celeriac planting out
Post by: tim on June 04, 2005, 16:55:19
Do we mean 'small' like small - or like a bit bigger (18/4)??
Title: Re: Celeriac planting out
Post by: Svea on June 04, 2005, 17:05:42
i would say the once in the background should be out now, the once on the front right could do with another couple of weeks before going out.
i put mine out when they were about 3 inches tall and had about 5 or 6 true leaves.
Title: Re: Celeriac planting out
Post by: Debs on June 04, 2005, 21:18:46

Mine are looking good in unheated greenhouse.

If I leave them and harden off gradually before planting out at

end of June, will the slugs still devour them even if they are

'more mature'

...Would hate to lose my darling celeriacs to the slimey little sods  >:(

Debs
Title: Re: Celeriac planting out
Post by: tim on June 05, 2005, 06:10:40
Why not use Chase's ferric phosphate bait? 'Harmless to humans, pets & wildlife'??
Title: Re: Celeriac planting out
Post by: Debs on June 05, 2005, 07:19:54
Quest que sais Tim? (spelling?)

Iv'e never heard of it.  Where would I get it from, how is it used?

Debs :)
Title: Re: Celeriac planting out
Post by: tim on June 05, 2005, 08:27:35
Can I help? Qu'est-ce que c'est?? Good try!!

Chase Organics - www.OrganicCatalogue.com - pellets like your usual ones.