:'(our 'prima'(very basic )breadmaker started spluttering and coughing and then it :'(...died!
o no!
i expect since we bought ours(about 5 years ago)that there are some real whizz-bang models out there-which one do you own and whats your experaince of it?
i need to know asap please!we cant live without our own bread!
thanks kitty :(
Will I do?? I only splutter when I'm cross.
depends
a)how much your hourly rate is!
and b)whether mrs tim will let you go! ;)
.but...yes-fromwhat i've heard you'll do very nicely! ;D
Kitty... Have you chucked it?
The reason i ask is because i have a breadmaker that is missing a paddle- a replacement is 30 quid or something- see where im going with this?
My one is a hinari by the way, its very good except for not having a paddle :D
funnily enough diuuurrrmid.i was thinking about you-and if we dont get a' prima 'one then you'd be very welcome to the innards..we are going breadmaking hunting tomorrow so i'll be in touch!
There is a thread on here somewhere about breadmakers and the outcome, by a long way, was the Panasonic breadmaker with the nut/seed dispenser. I think it is the SD253. The same one I have seen recommended in magazines too. I know the thread on here got quite excited about this particular machine and I can't wait for mine to break down so I can get one.
thanks tulippa!i have actually mastered the searchfacility-yes i know its easy...but i am dim..anyway..i searched but i didnt get many 'finds'..anywaythats actually the one that i was looking at-especially as the price has come down somuch!nothing if not a cheapskate!
QuoteI can't wait for mine to break down so I can get one.
good clout with a rolling pin should do it! ;)
or in our case-move house-2 removal men and a six mile journey should be enough!
Now where's my rolling pin....... Bit easier than moving house!
I SAY THIS WITH ALL POSSIBLE FEELING-TAKE THE ROLLING PIN OPTION EVERYTIME!!! >:( >:( >:( :o ::) ;) ;D
Thanks kitty, if you can send the paddle, what would you like in return (dont say breadmaker :D )? New rolling pin maybe? ;D ;D
something will spring to mind mac..my lamborghinis ashtrays are filling up.. ;)
its a wonder anyone knew what i was on about-i noticed i wrote-BEADMAKER!
kitty, I have the panasonic one with the seed nut dispenser, and LOVE it! Did a lot of research to find out which one was considered "the best" and it came out on top, no complaints from me so far! Oh and the cheapest place I found it was online at amazon! :o
http://www.amazon.co.uk/exec/obidos/ASIN/B00008WFDI/qid=1117526995/sr=8-1/ref=pd_ka_1/202-3938942-4188643
DP
yes-i saw the panasonic was 'the best'unfortunately..i am as tight as a ducks bum when it comes to parting with money for shoes or gadgets.....so-got a morphy richards(would have got a prima but couldnt find one anywhere) for £40-works fine!just got our first loaf out,just as good as our old prima model..-going to try a malt loaf in a minute-2 year guarantee(on the machine not the malt loaf!!! ;D-if it breaks after 2 years and a day it wont owe us anything ;D
the second bit of good news is-mac...MAC!!!!!you listening?????
you can have the paddle if you like-send me your addy in a pm.....the only downside to this is -we cant get the dam thing out the tin-probably needs WD40..so-tin included-you can wrestle the dam thing out-'k? ;D
kitty
The Panasonic was the 'Which' best but last year, followed by the Morphy Richards.
ahaaaaa!thanks for that tim..it seems to do the business just like the old one...thank gawd!the thought of a shop bought!
at least the prima managed to get up to the dough stage before she pegged out..made us some buns...alarming noises tho-and then-rip prima!
still sorted now!
kitty ;D
I have a morphy richards one and its brilliant! who needs a nut dispenser anyway!! :) :)
Me, cos I have a memory like a sieve and would forget to chuck in the nuts n seeds at the appropriate time! ;D
Doris, having read this thread and on a complete whim, I've just ordered the Panasonic one!  I'm very fond of good bread and now I can't wait to get started.  ;D
G xx
there ya go!
you'll enjoy it i'm sure! ;)
Georgie, You will love it!! The seeded bread (with pumpkin, sesame,ans sunflower seeds) is our favorite! If you can also get hold of the book, Fresh Bread in the Morning from Your Bread Machine by Annette Yates The white bread in there is fab, and most of the recipes dont have any extras like milk etc!
http://www.amazon.co.uk/exec/obidos/ASIN/0716021544/qid=1118069883/sr=1-5/ref=sr_1_11_5/202-3938942-4188643
DP
Thanks, Doris, I've added that to my wish list (can't be too greedy in one day). I'm hoping there's a recipe for walnut bread - I adore it.  :)
G xx
Breadmaker arrived - second loaf now cooling on the wire rack - tis tasty and fun!
G xx
Got one ready to be cooked for 7am for school lunches ;D Made pitta bread yesterday, has to be the best pitta ever!
Pitta bread? Yummy. It's on my list to try but I'm starting with the basics first. Someone recommended Dove Farm organic flour to me and it seems very good. I'd be interested in what others use.
G xx
I have a Morphy Richards. I first bought it over 2 years ago. The paddels jammed within the 2 year warrenty and they sent me a new pan. When the new pan arrived, the machine itself was damaged because of the jammed paddels. So they sent me a brand new model, which so far is great. I find that I have to wash and clean the pan out straight away so that the paddels don't dry out and get jammed - wouldn't want that to happen when it's on the timer during the night.
Today, I've just made a sweet bread with dried fruit and fresh Nutmeg and just had a slice with butter. Yum, I could really taste the Nutmeg.
I love to make the dough for Granery Bread cakes, which I then bake in the oven. I think home made bread taste much better than bought bread.
I find that reducing the amount of salt and sugar doesn't affect the rising of the dough or bread.
Happy bread making.
Lily, I'm interested in the comments you make about reducing the sugar and salt content. I have to say that I was a little alarmed that both loaves I've baked so far have called for a teaspoon of salt and a tablespoon of sugar. How much can I reduce that by without affecting the rising of the bread?
G xx
Hi G.
You will be alarmed to find that the original recipe (Bread maker) called for 2 tbsp of sugar and 1 and 1/2 tsp of salt for my dough (for the breadcakes). I have reduced this to 1 tbps of sugar and 1 tsp of salt. I can taste the difference in less sugar and salt and feel that reducing it anymore would make the breadcakes completely tasteless.
I'm sure that the sugar and salt have an affect on the yeast, but not too sure in what way. Have a try at reducing the sugar and salt a qtr/ half a tsp at a time to see what happens. Try this site, it gives a reason why you should'nt use sugar when you use their flour. I've not tried it myself as I haven't used their flour.
http://www.clarksflour.sagenet.co.uk//faq.htm
Hmmmm interesting. This is a whole new science to me!
G xx
The book link I gave on this thread, has great recipes, not many of them have any sugar in at all.
I am using them over the manual that came with my machine because they seem to use less sugar, salt oil and hardly any have milk powder in.
Made the white loaf again today, and it is just perfect, just like I remember as a kid ;DÂ Crunchy on the outside and all lovely in the middle! The foccacia yesterday was fab too, I can feel the inches appearing on my thighs :-\
Georgie, I use Dove organic too, or whichever organic flour is available at the health food shop.
Found this via an article the other day, looks very interesting :)
http://www.flourbin.com/index.html  Anyone tried them?
Bit late to this thread but here goes...
We're got the Panasonic 253 as well. Got it last year as a wedding pressie and took it on honeymoon with us to Cornwall! Had great fun - more or less lived on pate, local cheese and warm bread!
We've only really had three disasters - one was last night when I decided to shove a tablespoon of wasabi powder into the flour. Didn't rise much! Prob because I didn't add extra water to compensate... oops.
Georgie - don't worry too much about the salt etc. There was a hoohah a few months ago about the amount of salt in shop bread - I calculated how much was in each slice of the SD253 standard white and it was about 1/5 of the Hovis quoted in the articles. Having said that, we make sure we use unsalted butter in the recipes so there's less because of that.
Oddly enough, my favourite is also the multi-seed. Though you can tip a tablespoon of poppy seed into just about any of the recipes. And we find that rapid white gives a better loaf than the 4 hour white!
A nice trick if you like spicy foods is to put a tablespoon of green or red Thai curry paste into the mix and subtract some of the butter to compensate. Tangy! Makes the bread a nice colour too (well it does if it's the red!)
moonbells
That's really helpful, thanks Moonbells. I'm interested in experimenting once I've got the hang of it. I was disappointed that the Panasonic recipe booklet does not give one for walnut bread which I love.  Could I just use the one for say, anchovy and sun dried tomato loaf and replace these two ingredients with and equivilent weight of chopped walnuts?
I will get the book, Doris, in due course. In the meantime have you any thoughts on making walnut bread?
G xx
Quote from: Georgie on June 15, 2005, 20:34:50
That's really helpful, thanks Moonbells. I'm interested in experimenting once I've got the hang of it. I was disappointed that the Panasonic recipe booklet does not give one for walnut bread which I love. Could I just use the one for say, anchovy and sun dried tomato loaf and replace these two ingredients with and equivilent weight of chopped walnuts?
I will get the book, Doris, in due course. In the meantime have you any thoughts on making walnut bread?
G xx
Yes. Did two loaves of it last week for Sir (I can't eat walnuts without being ill). Get some chopped walnuts and fill the hopper to the top. It's about the right amount! The do the mix for the walnut and apricot bread which is on the bake raisin program. Worked well.
Another tip - if you haven't got a digital kitchen scale, I can recommend them. Not only are they accurate, you can stick the bucket on them, zero and just keep adding ingredients, zeroing when needed. And 1g of water is 1ml so 350ml is 350g etc. So you don't need to faff with the water jug!
Last tip - if you haven't got them already get some 1/4 1/2 1tsp and 1 tablespoon measuring spoons. They're heaps easier than the plastic job that comes with the machine and really not very dear. I don't know how I managed without them for so long.
mmmm red curry bread tomorrow for sandwiches mmmm
moonbells
Georgie I shall dig out the recipe from the book and post it, think if I remember correctly it uses walnut oil too. I haven't tried it yet though, so you can give it a go and let me know! ;D
All sounds yum Moonbells! :) Will give the rapid white a go!
I am the proud owner of a new breadmaker bought yesterday afternoon ;D does all sorts so it says anyway( morphy richards one ) looking forward to trying out some of the recipes on here defo looking for ones without sugar or salt or options on these( fella is diabetic ) lets hope my first efforts dont turn out like bricks ::) ;)
Ann-Marie
Georgie, Walnut Bread from Fresh bread in the morning from your bread machine by Annette Yates ISBN 0-7160-2154-4
1 1/4 tsp Easybake yeast
250g/9oz Strong white bread flour
250g/9oz strong wholemeal flour
1 tsp fine sea salt
350ml/12floz water
1 tbsp walnut oil
1 tbspn honey (use one with a good pronounced flavour)
115g/4oz broken walnuts
Put all the ingredients except the walnuts into the bread pan in the correct order for your machine.
Fit pan into machine and close lid. (if using the panasonic with dispenser put walnuts into nut container!)
Select the basic wholewheat raisin setting, medium crust and the appropriate size. (X Large for panasonic)
Press start. With other machines when the machine idicates, put in walnuts.
When machine has finished remove from tin and allow to cool completely.
Georgie, let me know what it tastes like, because I haven't tried this one yet! ;D Nice looking chilli bread on the opposite page, hmmmmmmmm
Hiya Flower! :) This is from the same book as above, does have salt in it though, best loaf of bread I have made yet!
1 tsp easybake yeast
500g/1lb 2oz strong white bread flour
1 1/4 tsp fine sea salt
350ml/12floz water
Put the ingredients into the bread pan in the order for your machine
Select basic white setting, medium crust and appropriate size. (large on panasonic) Press start.
When finished lift bread out and cool on a wire rack.
Now try and keep your hands off it until cool, bet you eat loads!!! ;D ;D ;D
Now you all have to go out and buy the book!
DP
You are both so kind to go to all this trouble, thank you so much. I've got a rather busy weekend coming up but I promise to get the necessary ingredients asap and post the results when I can.
G xx
I treated myself to the Anthony Worrall Thomspon breadmaker yesterday.
I very nearly bought the panasonic but as they only do it in white it wouldnt match in the kitchen which has all silver appliances, so after some research, it appears that reviews for the AWT are as good as those for the panasonic, and i have to say, so far, so good, ive made three different loaves so far and I have one very happy family ;D
I am now on the hunt for lots of recipes :P
Blimey, have you seen the price of good walnut oil? Anyway, I've now got all the ingredients for the walnut bread so I will have a go later in the week and report back.
G xx
Waiting with bated breath! Better than bated bread!
Do any of these books have a recipe for brotchen (German rolls) at all? I keep trying to see if Amazon would let me peek at the contents pages but they never seem to...
moonbells
I will take a look for you MB
Quote from: Doris_Pinks on June 22, 2005, 14:46:50
I will take a look for you MB
Many thanks!
moonbells
none in the books I have MB, but found a couple of links if they are any good to you...trouble is they are in American cup measurements, but an easy way to remember is that 1 cup of anything is equivilent to 8floz in a measuring jug! (or you can use a conversion site!)
Or 1 cup Flour = 115g Flour
http://fooddownunder.com/cgi-bin/recipe.cgi?r=218330
http://recipeview.com/Breadmaker/Breadmaker705.htm
Hope this helps Moonbells......Dottie P.
I've just taken the walnut bread out of the machine - looks impressive I have to say. Line up here for the tasting in about 30 minutes! ;)
G xx
Doris - it's lovely. Light and fluffy and very tasty too.  ;D
G xx
Ohh so pleased! EVERY recipe I have made from that book has been fabulous! ENJOY ;D
Hi DP :) went onto the link you gave for the book and its so cheap just had to buy it its loads of fun making your own bread ,ta for the recipe dp ;D
Quote from: Doris_Pinks on June 22, 2005, 15:59:26
none in the books I have MB, but found a couple of links if they are any good to you...trouble is they are in American cup measurements, but an easy way to remember is that 1 cup of anything is equivilent to 8floz in a measuring jug! (or you can use a conversion site!)
Or 1 cup Flour = 115g Flour
http://fooddownunder.com/cgi-bin/recipe.cgi?r=218330
http://recipeview.com/Breadmaker/Breadmaker705.htm
Hope this helps Moonbells......Dottie P.
thanks! Shall have a go next time the inlaws come to visit... normally we have to hoof over to Backhaus in Ham for authentic rolls.
(If anyone does like continental bread and is near there, Backhaus is a great place - two shops in the middle of a housing estate, one a bakery and the other German produce, so we stock up on the cheeses and stuff too :) )
http://www.backhaus.co.uk/index.html
moonbells
You are welcome Flower! :D
Cor Moonbells, that place looks fab, almost to the point of s*d making it meself! ;D
DP
Okay, this 5 seed bread. Where do I get caraway seed from? Drew blanks at Holland & Barrett, Waitrose and a couple of local shops. Found the other four easily!
G xx
I have bought it in Sainsburys and Tesco before now, I think it is a Schwartz spice.
Ah Schwartz - hadn't thought of them! Thanks :)
G xx
I don't put caraway in my 5 seed bread, the kids HATE it! ;D I put in pumpkin seeds, poppy seeds, sunflower seeds and sesame seeds, they like that combo much better!! (I guess it makes it 4 seed bread ::) )
Hi Doris. Do you compensate for the lack of caraway by increasing the amount of the other four seeds and if so, what do you recommend?
G xx
Georgie, I would put more sunflower in, but that is just personal taste, I have now got a bit blaze about adding the seeds, and throw them into loads of the recipes without measuring! ::) I expect it shall go horribly wrong for me one day! ;D
LOL, never Doris, you are the Wiz.  ;D
G xx
Quote from: Doris_Pinks on July 06, 2005, 10:13:36
Georgie, I would put more sunflower in, but that is just personal taste, I have now got a bit blaze about adding the seeds, and throw them into loads of the recipes without measuring! ::) I expect it shall go horribly wrong for me one day! ;D
I tend to do that too. Again for the caraway. Except I tend to add more pumpkin or I substitute pine nuts.
moonbells
Moonbells, Love pumpkins seeds and pine nuts! (have to say I am not a great caraway lover)
Pine nuts toasted and tossed into salad, lovely!! (My kids are eating healthy stuff without realising ;D ) DP