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Title: Leeks
Post by: Derek on May 22, 2005, 12:31:25
Please excuse my ignorance but I have a question about leeks...

Is the amount of blanched stem on leeks all down to:-

a)  The variety of the actual seed planted?

b)   The technique that needs to be employed for growing?

My leeks this last year have only a couple of inches that are blanched and I was wondering if I have done something wrong

Thanks
Derek
Title: Re: Leeks
Post by: legless on May 22, 2005, 12:37:23
its the bit that is underground, so you could plant them deeply in a hole, or earth them up as they grow or both.
Title: Re: Leeks
Post by: tim on May 22, 2005, 13:00:11
And in the end, stop reading culinary advice & enjoy ALL of it!!
Title: Re: Leeks
Post by: redimp on May 22, 2005, 13:06:10
Quote from: tim on May 22, 2005, 13:00:11
And in the end, stop reading culinary advice & enjoy ALL of it!!
Have always ignored advice about eating leeks and cringed when cooks throw away all of the green.  In my opinion the green bit is the best bit.  More substantial and stronger tasting.
Title: Re: Leeks
Post by: Robert_Brenchley on May 22, 2005, 13:56:43
I just stick a good hole with a dibber, drop the leek in, and fill the hole with water. Then we eat the lot apart from the outer bit, which always seems to have grit mixed up with it.
Title: Re: Leeks
Post by: kitty on May 22, 2005, 21:18:56
eat as much of the leek as you can-green an'al!too goo to waste!


er...derek...arent you supposed to be taking it easy?i hope you arent planting leeks yet! ;D
Title: Re: Leeks
Post by: Robert_Brenchley on May 22, 2005, 21:45:39
I just planted mine this afternoon between downpours. I bought them, since i didn't get any seed in early enough, and the compost they came in stopped them going down the holes I made properly. There won't be much white this year; it's lucky that's one thiing my family don't fuss over.
Title: Re: Leeks
Post by: Roy Bham UK on May 23, 2005, 00:05:15
Robert don't tell me I have wasted my time sowing Leeks...I have a tray full about 1½" high my first attempt :o
Title: Re: Leeks
Post by: Svea on May 23, 2005, 00:23:19
so have i, roy
the way i see it - they are an autumn/winter vegetable so surely it won't matter too much a few weeks either way.....
just my opinion though
Title: Re: Leeks
Post by: teresa on May 23, 2005, 00:29:49
I hope so too my first year growing from seed and they are 2 inch high I am so chuffed with them.
Was given some back end of last year did not think they would survive and most did but now going into flower. So have to use them as small as they are.
Title: Re: Leeks
Post by: PREMTAL on May 23, 2005, 02:55:57
Hi All,
         I am in total agreement with Kitty and Redclanger on using the whole Leek, cutting off the green is sacrilege.

To do so is to deny yourself the superb flavour the the Leek has to offer, and there are nutrients in the leaf that are not present in the stem.

Living in Scotland our season is shorter than down south, but we can still get a good crop from seed sown in late April or early May.

                                            PREMTAL ;D
Title: Re: Leeks
Post by: Lily on May 23, 2005, 06:28:51
After watching the dvd ' The allotment' one chap grew his Leeks from seed.  Once they reached a couple of inches he planted them out into what he called a 'Nursery' bed.  Then when they where approx 8 - 10 inch high he dug them up again and this time, he planted them in the main bed as deeply as he could, just to get as much 'blanched' stem as possible.

I myself will eat as much of the green as possible.  You need to be aware that soil can get down into the leaves and you just need to wash them through.

Our winter leeks this year were also short and stocky to begin with, but in time they did grow well and taste beautiful.  This year we are letting some of them go to seed so that we can save a few pence next year.

Good luck and enjoy.

Lily

Title: Re: Leeks
Post by: Mrs Ava on May 23, 2005, 23:43:03
I earth mine up to try and extend the blanched bit, but we do use the whole leek - no waste in this house!!  You need to block out the light, I wonder if straw would do it?  A chap on our site drops lengths of guttering over them once they are big enough.
Title: Re: Leeks
Post by: teresa on May 23, 2005, 23:53:39
Think I will have to do the nursery bed idea, then dig them up.
I have a old spade handle and hubby pointed the end so I have a great dibber to make the hole and pop them in. One step up from the iron bar I first used.
Then they grow to fill the hole width and blanch the same time. I use all the leek just trim off the top inch or so.
Title: Re: Leeks
Post by: gunnerbee on May 23, 2005, 23:56:44
Hi, ive seen a mans local allotment full of lovely leeks grown in plastic piping. what a good idea.
Title: Re: Leeks
Post by: teresa on May 24, 2005, 00:12:08
sounds like he grows them for shows they do things like that and if you drink Newcastle brown ale the next day save the outcome and water the leeks with it. Its ment to work wonders pity hubby does not like it oh well fish poo water will have to do.
Title: Re: Leeks
Post by: Multiveg on May 24, 2005, 11:38:58
Thinking of fish (and not of leeks) wonder if I will try the fish & sweetcorn thing...
Title: Re: Leeks
Post by: sandersj89 on May 24, 2005, 15:20:27
Still plenty of time to sow leeks. I sowed a second batch two weeks ago and they are just germinating. A third batch will be sown this week.

I may even do a 4th batch in 2 or 3 weeks time to extend the season right through until May next year.

Jerry
Title: Re: Leeks
Post by: kitty on May 24, 2005, 16:37:28
i know there are lots of different varieties of leeks...but ,say,you only have the one sort(like i do!)autumn king.....will taht be alright to sutain me thru the winter-or do i have to plant different varieties at different times-and if i can use the one sort-will it benefit me to stagger the final planting-at the moment i have a lot of seedlings in a bed-they're about 6-8"tall and half a pencil fat...
thanks for your help!!
kitty :)
Title: Re: Leeks
Post by: redimp on May 24, 2005, 16:56:08
Same question for me - but different variety - I have Musselborough.
Title: Re: Leeks
Post by: Roy Bham UK on May 24, 2005, 22:33:24
Mine says sow March/April and I still have seeds left, is it worth a shot? ???
Title: Re: Leeks
Post by: Mrs Ava on May 24, 2005, 22:41:48
Of course it is Roy!  I will be sowing anything and everything until....well, until I either run out of room, run out of seed, or go round the bend!  ;D
Title: Re: Leeks
Post by: teresa on May 25, 2005, 00:19:37
Hi,
I am like redclanger with  Musselborough.
forgive me for being dumb but I thought all leeks went through the winter so can you tell me what the difference is between them.
So far I am just excited I got some seeds of them growing and dont have to buy them.
Title: Re: Leeks
Post by: kitty on May 25, 2005, 15:37:06
well...i did too teresa.but with some of them -the name autumn king seems to suggest they are better 'keepers'...

roy-i said somewhere on here that i found a bag of onion sets hiding(they were whispering'please dont plant us')and i bunged 'em in-most people were saying plant before may but on the packet it said up to june and how do the seeds know what time of year it is when the weather is this dodgy?!
anyway-that was last weekend and they are already sprouting  so i'm pleased i planted them now!
so-we are still waiting for the answers to;
do we buy a particular sort of leek to last thru the winter...
and..
do we stagger planting of leeks to sustain us thru the winter.
we need a plumber here.
or at the very least a leek expert....... ;D
Title: Re: Leeks
Post by: littlegem on May 25, 2005, 15:57:54
I've just read the post about growing leeks in pipes. thought of a brill idea. I'm gonna get some big pop bottles (to make sure get enough light). 3" of compost in bottom, sow leek seed. and top up with compost as and when. i can grow them anywhere then. does this sound like a good idea? or am i being simple? :)
Title: Re: Leeks
Post by: Derek on May 25, 2005, 17:26:37
Hi

Wow...I missed a day and look at all the posts I have to catch up on.
I reckon I didn't drill a deep enough hole last year and although the leeks are tasty (White and green parts) the blanched bit seems wanting...I suppose that I am saying that in this case 'size does matter'

I may try the plastic pipe method that has been mentioned alongside the conventional way this year just to see what happens.

Kitty...I am taking it easy.... honest...although I did manage to get some runner beans out yesterday and pulled a few of the last leeks...I have been restricting myself to greenhouse duty...you could say I have been confined to the glasshouse

Derek
Title: Re: Leeks
Post by: kitty on May 25, 2005, 18:25:28
well..easy does it!you dont want to put yourself back!
...and i'm watching you! ;D
Title: Re: Leeks
Post by: tim on May 25, 2005, 18:41:44
It's here somewhere, but I can't lay my finger on it.

Varieties? - yes - harvest from August till April.
Succession? - like with everything else, OF COURSE!!

Title: Re: Leeks
Post by: kitty on May 25, 2005, 19:28:56
thanks tim-but you're being a bit too succint there-either that or i'm being ultra dim this evening......don't answer that.

QuoteVarieties? - yes - harvest from August till April.
yes-but if you only have the one variety-in my case autumn king ,in clangers case musselburgh..can we sow these successionally to harvest from aug. thru to april-or do we need different varieties.....? :)
Title: Re: Leeks
Post by: sandersj89 on May 25, 2005, 21:52:31
Quote from: kitty on May 25, 2005, 19:28:56
thanks tim-but you're being a bit too succint there-either that or i'm being ultra dim this evening......don't answer that.

QuoteVarieties? - yes - harvest from August till April.
yes-but if you only have the one variety-in my case autumn king ,in clangers case musselburgh..can we sow these successionally to harvest from aug. thru to april-or do we need different varieties.....? :)

I would be happy yo sow a single variety in succession, indeed I have for a number of years. We picked our last Autumn Giant only a few weeks ago.

Jerry
Title: Re: Leeks
Post by: kitty on May 25, 2005, 22:04:36
thats the answer!
happy now!thanks jerry! :-*
Title: Re: Leeks
Post by: redimp on May 25, 2005, 23:31:03
Ta Gerry and thanks Kitty for persisting  ;D
Title: Re: Leeks
Post by: tim on May 28, 2005, 09:34:32
Remembering, of course, that some strains are bred for early cropping, & that others are not fully winter hardy? Or don't stand well.


PS Sorry to be succwhatever, kitty!
Title: Re: Leeks
Post by: clairenpaul on May 28, 2005, 10:50:04
Littlegem what a good idea  :) - sounds like it'll work so we're going to give it a try with some leeks and see how it goes