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Title: broad beans - weird
Post by: Multiveg on April 21, 2005, 15:53:52
Got some broad beans in modules- nothing weird about that, but how about one that seems to be devoid of greenness - it is yellow, completely yellow - why? Shall take a piccie of it in a mo to post up here (if I haven't by then disappeared down the lottie)...
Title: Re: broad beans - weird
Post by: Multiveg on April 25, 2005, 11:20:51
herebe, at long last, a piccie of the albino broad bean (The Sutton).
Title: Re: broad beans - weird
Post by: legless on April 25, 2005, 11:28:40
ooooh. thats weird....

sorry, not helpful at all am i?  :D
Title: Re: broad beans - weird
Post by: aquilegia on April 25, 2005, 11:41:59
mutant!

Might it really be albino? You have to nurture that one and tell us of it's progress. Will it produce beans?

You could market them as a new type of yellow broad bean. I bet you could sell them to T&M for a fortune (after you've done seed swaps of course!)
Title: Re: broad beans - weird
Post by: Sarah-b on April 25, 2005, 11:52:35
You are right MV - that is weird!
Title: Re: broad beans - weird
Post by: Mrs Ava on April 25, 2005, 12:19:34
I am useless at all that hyrbidisation milarky, but could it be a bean that has reverted to an original???

Odd though!  If you make your fortune, remember your allotment chums.  ;D ;D ;D ;D :-* :-* :-* :-*
Title: Re: broad beans - weird
Post by: Multiveg on April 25, 2005, 12:20:17
Transplanted the broad beans into the plot with a little helper on Saturday, including the yellow one, so I will let you know what happens.
Title: Re: broad beans - weird
Post by: westsussexlottie on April 25, 2005, 12:22:54
Why don't you phone the seed company and ask them about it?
Title: Re: broad beans - weird
Post by: Suffolklad on April 25, 2005, 22:21:30
Quote from: aquilegia on April 25, 2005, 11:41:59I bet you could sell them to T&M for a fortune

You can't be talking about the same T&M that I worked for  ;D
Mike
Title: Re: broad beans - weird
Post by: ruud on April 26, 2005, 08:43:27
I have also one albino broadbean this year but he looked a bit unhealty to me
Title: Re: broad beans - weird
Post by: Apple Dumpling on April 26, 2005, 10:46:41
Wouldn't any plant need chlorophyll to grow properly?
Title: Re: broad beans - weird
Post by: redimp on April 27, 2005, 00:25:55
That's the presumption but I suppose we better wait to see how these plants do - there are chlorophylless plants out there.
Title: Re: broad beans - weird
Post by: PakChoi on March 03, 2008, 14:28:47
Hello, in the unlikely event that you see this post again, did the yellow bean change and become green?  I have the same thing, again with a Sutton broad bean.
Title: Re: broad beans - weird
Post by: sawfish on March 03, 2008, 17:34:40
keep us all updated on its progress on this thread. I'm quite fascinated, it looks incredible!
Title: Re: broad beans - weird
Post by: manicscousers on March 03, 2008, 17:40:06
once had a pea plant with variegated leaves, I was leaving the pods to mature and ray picked them all  ;D
Title: Re: broad beans - weird
Post by: Robert_Brenchley on March 03, 2008, 20:56:14
It's a mutation without chlorophyll. it can't produce food and won't survive. They're well-known among cacti, as they're grafted onto normal plants and sold. You've probably seen the bright red and yellow things.
Title: Re: broad beans - weird
Post by: sawfish on March 03, 2008, 21:03:08
still worth watching though, you never know.
Title: Re: broad beans - weird
Post by: Suzanne on March 03, 2008, 21:24:37
The bean looks very healthy - so more like a genetic mutation, also to me looks yellow rather than pure white. There are photosynthetic pigments that are different colours to chlorophyll-a and there is one that is yellow. So if it has a dominance of this pigment it could still survive. After all we have lots of golden leaved plants. Not sure what it would do to crop yield though.

If it survives and fruits and you can save pure seed you could see whether this mutation survives to the next generation of it it reverts to parent type.

If it has a defunct gene for pigment and it really is pure white it could of course just be living of the remnants of the seed - broad beans are quite big seeds.

Gosh I hope it's the first possible explanation - so much more exciting.
Title: Re: broad beans - weird
Post by: Robert_Brenchley on March 04, 2008, 07:48:21
It's healthy at the moment because it's feeding on stored carbohydrates in the cotyledons. The test comes when they're used up.
Title: Re: broad beans - weird
Post by: alienwithaview on March 04, 2008, 09:06:51
Am fascinated by the yellow-leafed broad bean - what happened in the end?
I've got a weird occurrence with my broadbeans from Marshalls - this is the first year I've ever sown any and was right pleased that every single one produced a seedling (but all of them with dark-green leaves).
The strange thing is that about half of them produced twins: there are two stalks next to each other, quite close, too, obviously sprouting from the same bean, and both grow equally fast and develop leaves. The ones with only one stalk are admittedly stronger though.
But what is it with these twins? I shouldn't think that this is meant to be, as they are less vigorous than the others, but what puzzles me is that there's so many of them: about 10. They have all germinated under the same conditions. Any suggestions?
Title: Re: broad beans - weird
Post by: PakChoi on March 06, 2008, 14:04:44
Twins! now that is interesting - maybe you'll get a slightly higher yield per sq. m. 

I suppose the truth is that we grow a lot of beans, and most are normal, but it's the unusual ones that catch the eye.

Again, intrigued to hear how yours turn out.

I've had another look at mine and it is growing, albeit tall and thin, either because it can't "use" light or there isn't enough - the latter can be solved when it goes into the cold frame tomorrow.   There is a small splash of pink on the stem at the base.
Title: Re: broad beans - weird
Post by: Multiveg on March 06, 2008, 14:07:00
Oops, I forgot about this thread! Sadly, the broad bean died.
Title: Re: broad beans - weird
Post by: PakChoi on March 06, 2008, 14:08:18
Couldn't you have broken the news a bit more gently?

:-[
Title: Re: broad beans - weird
Post by: kenkew on March 06, 2008, 15:38:30
Yes! That was a bit a sudden, MV........... :D
Title: Re: broad beans - weird
Post by: Fork on March 06, 2008, 16:15:42
Once had some red raspberries that truned out gold............the plants were wrongly labelled at the garden centre  ;D