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Produce => Edible Plants => Topic started by: Jeannine on May 18, 2016, 21:58:15

Title: Sungold wannabees
Post by: Jeannine on May 18, 2016, 21:58:15
This year I found a few tiny Sungold fruit still edible when I cleaned the greenhouse in the Spring and I sowed seeds from one of them. I have never done this before does anyone know what I should expect.. I also have a large tub I had dragged out of the greenhouse as I wasn't using it this year that  had the Sungold in and one has seeded itself so I have three plants now. I will keep an eye on them but they have to go outside..
Title: Re: Sungold wannabees
Post by: Jayb on May 20, 2016, 08:28:18
I would expect the plants to be tending to be of good flavour, vigorous and with good yield. You may get both red and 'gold' fruited cherries (unless they have outcrossed with another variety you were growing last year when they would likely be all red unless crossed with another of similar colour) Or at least this is what I have found in the past. Really looking forward to your progress with these, hope they taste great.

Coincidence, I've started several bagged Sungold F2's this year, I'm hoping to make a first selection on scent and then another on likeness to Sungold growth, looks and taste. Though why I'm not sure as Sungold does seem to be unique! I'm hoping to continue to make selections with the gold coloured fruit but in the past when I have tried you get the odd red popping up generations down the line.
Title: Re: Sungold wannabees
Post by: Jeannine on May 20, 2016, 08:43:37
Thanks Jay, they would not have crossed as they were in a different place to my others. So it will be interesting to see what I get.


I have some F2 and F3 Sungolds someone gave me and I have 2 types that are supposed to be stable too but I have never grown them yet
Title: Re: Sungold wannabees
Post by: johhnyco15 on May 20, 2016, 16:52:30
Quote from: Jayb on May 20, 2016, 08:28:18
I would expect the plants to be tending to be of good flavour, vigorous and with good yield. You may get both red and 'gold' fruited cherries (unless they have outcrossed with another variety you were growing last year when they would likely be all red unless crossed with another of similar colour) Or at least this is what I have found in the past. Really looking forward to your progress with these, hope they taste great.

Coincidence, I've started several bagged Sungold F2's this year, I'm hoping to make a first selection on scent and then another on likeness to Sungold growth, looks and taste. Though why I'm not sure as Sungold does seem to be unique! I'm hoping to continue to make selections with the gold coloured fruit but in the past when I have tried you get the odd red popping up generations down the line.
please let me know how you got on  thinking if i get enough time might try the seed saving thing myself this year however i say that every year lol
Title: Re: Sungold wannabees
Post by: Vinlander on June 01, 2016, 12:08:47
Quote from: Jeannine on May 20, 2016, 08:43:37
Thanks Jay, they would not have crossed as they were in a different place to my others. So it will be interesting to see what I get.

If you net the vents it's pretty much certain, but bees can travel 100s of metres. Commercial greenhouses apparently use ordinary flies too - and they are even more likely to enter enclosures - I'd be surprised if they foraged as far but that's ignoring the wind.

On the other hand every cross-fertilisation is a ticket to the lottery, and  if all your tomatoes are chosen on flavour alone like mine (I regard yield as a minor issue, and appearance as totally irrelevant) then you massively improve your chances of something tasting better than either parent.

Cheers.
Title: Re: Sungold wannabees
Post by: Digeroo on June 01, 2016, 17:40:04
I bought some sungold from local WI market except it is not called that any more, and has mostly been taken over by men.  Certainly looked like sun gold, but just did not have the taste.  Sungold FI has two different parents, so not sure what you get when you cross.

There are supposed to be some good stable as good as.

However even the proper sungold seems to have lost some of it flavour and vigour.  I remember soon after it appeared we had a great summer and I had plants over six feet high dripping in gorgeous fruits.  Now only manage a tiny plant and a few so so fruit before the blight sets in.