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Title: couve tronchuda
Post by: steveg1966 on March 02, 2013, 10:42:50
couve tronchuda Has anybody grown this before I have just bought some seeds are they just like cabbage to grow
Title: Re: couve tronchuda
Post by: aj on March 02, 2013, 11:20:51
They are more greens than cabbage, and are perennial so you only need to grow a few.

We have some at Ryton that are into their 3rd year now and are nearly as tall as me. Which is 5ft 5ish.
Title: Re: couve tronchuda
Post by: Robert_Brenchley on March 02, 2013, 16:50:21
They're cabbages, but with a looseleaf growth pattern. It's a Portugese type, and the original varieties aren't frost hardy, but it's been grown in Britain since Victorian times and I imagine it's gained the hardiness over the generations. I didn't know it was perennial. There are a lot of varieties, and the leaves vary quite a bit, but this is what the plants look like:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8CUiNkehjbo

There used to be a clip on it form 'The Victorian Kitchen Garden' on Youtube but it seems to have been taken down.
Title: Re: couve tronchuda
Post by: gwynleg on March 02, 2013, 18:03:32
Interesting! Do they taste good and how do you stop the birds from eating them?
Title: Re: couve tronchuda
Post by: Digeroo on March 02, 2013, 18:27:38
The bit from Victorian Kitchen garden seems to be here
www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wt8KMWiq48M

Though the one that Harry Dobson shows has a large head.  While other sources suggest that it does not produce a head.

Any idea where to get the seeds I do like something different to try.
Title: Re: couve tronchuda
Post by: steveg1966 on March 02, 2013, 18:41:38
You can get them from http://www.thomasetty.co.uk/seeds/index.html along with a host of other interesting stuff
Title: Re: couve tronchuda
Post by: Robert_Brenchley on March 03, 2013, 15:50:53
Net them to keep the birds off. Once they get to a decent size they're OK in the summer, but any winter brassica always needs netting, at least where I am. It varies from place to place and from year to year.
Title: Re: couve tronchuda
Post by: Robert_Brenchley on March 03, 2013, 15:54:13
Quote from: Digeroo on March 02, 2013, 18:27:38
The bit from Victorian Kitchen garden seems to be here
www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wt8KMWiq48M

Though the one that Harry Dobson shows has a large head.  While other sources suggest that it does not produce a head.

Any idea where to get the seeds I do like something different to try.

That's the one I was looking for. There are numerous varieties, and the size of the head probably varies.
Title: Re: couve tronchuda
Post by: goodlife on March 03, 2013, 16:06:24
Is it similar to Asturian tree cabbage that is sold in Realseeds?
Title: Re: couve tronchuda
Post by: Jeannine on March 03, 2013, 16:34:55
I have it growing now, it was last years planting, it has come through the winter very well. Info I have from this side is that is perennial for about three years after that it usually dies off.

XX Jeannine