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Title: Garlic, Help!!!!
Post by: Dirkdigger on February 27, 2005, 22:47:47
Can anyone advise me if it's to late to put my garlic in ? Most people seem to have planted it in November, but as I only got the plot a few weeks ago that was impossible. I'm told its easy to grow, anything needed for helping it along ?
My garlic will be so important to me as I like it raw in my cheese sandwiches at work( workmates beware).
Please lots and lots of advice please.
Many thanks
Dirk
Title: Re: Garlic, Help!!!!
Post by: thomasb on February 27, 2005, 22:58:14
You could try planting spring varities now. However, others will give advise on if its too late. I tried it this time last year, without much sucess. The garlic was small and did not split into cloves. That why I started mine last November.

Good luck
Title: Re: Garlic, Help!!!!
Post by: TULIP-23 on February 27, 2005, 23:20:21
Dirk Digger ;)
any well drained spot will do for this herb.
Buy a head of Garlic from your greengrocer or Supermarket and split it up into individual cloves PLant them 2"deep and 6"apart in March. Apart from watering in dry weather there is nothing else to do  until the foliage turns Yellow in July or August. Lift the Bulbs and allow to dry under cover...then store them in a cool frost free place.

Extract from THe Vegetable and Herb Expert Dr DG Hessayon

Hope is a little help ,to you

                                 Mike
Title: Re: Garlic, Help!!!!
Post by: Roy Bham UK on February 28, 2005, 10:11:43
I asked a similar question a while back and was put off supermarket garlic in case of viral infection. :o Take a look at these threads.http://www.allotments4all.co.uk/yabbse/index.php/topic,6294.msg52843.html#msg52843
Title: Re: Garlic, Help!!!!
Post by: TULIP-23 on February 28, 2005, 11:36:00
Roy :)

Someone- somewhere as to Control all the Produce
at the Growing end or the Beginning of the Purchasing End.

I would ask myself.....Would my Locally Greengrocer Purchases  a Bad Produce!!!  Would the Super Market Chains
Purchases a Bad Produce!!    Yes....It can and maybe does happen but How Often.....Normally its Affected by how long it remains on the Stocklist or Shelf.

Not all Vegetables are Certified!!

And surely there is Nothing wrong with an Experiment...
otherwise how do we learn or Gain Knowledge!!!

                                Mike ;)
                                             

Title: Re: Garlic, Help!!!!
Post by: Heldi on February 28, 2005, 11:59:42
Hi Dirkdigger,

Funnily enough I bought some garlic from a garden centre yesterday. I was a little worried when I read your post about planting them in November. I've just had a look on the back of the packet...

Planting time - September-November or February-March.  Thats put my mind at rest a bit! So I'll be giving it a go now and then maybe try sowing some more in November .
Title: Re: Garlic, Help!!!!
Post by: Dirkdigger on February 28, 2005, 16:27:10
Thanks for all the replies. I bought my garlic from a garden center a couple of weeks ago, not yet planted it though. Will try tomorrow to get it in.
Thanks again
Title: Re: Garlic, Help!!!!
Post by: TULIP-23 on February 28, 2005, 16:52:35
Dirkdigger.

It will all work out inthe End ;D

Title: Re: Garlic, Help!!!!
Post by: kenkew on February 28, 2005, 21:28:38
I intended to plant mine last year...missed it because all the suppliers here told me to come back in February!
I did and bought cloves from them and planted them 3 weeks ago. Time will tell. Regarding problems with 'shop' bought, well, I've grown spuds from peelings before today without problems. So I suppose it's always worth a try.
(Where does my garlic supplier get his from I wonder. There not packeted.)
Title: Re: Garlic, Help!!!!
Post by: TULIP-23 on March 01, 2005, 07:04:57
Last Saterday whilst Shopping  ::)

Checked out Garlic in Lidl Supermarket

Yesterday went to the Local Boerenbond Hardware   Clothing   Gardening Products
Saw no difference in the Labelling or Packaging ???

The morale of this tale: Price!! ???

LIdl......1.25....B.B.2.29!!!!!!!!!!!!!!  :o              Mike ;)
Title: Re: Garlic, Help!!!!
Post by: tim on March 01, 2005, 07:48:20
Tulip - the one thing that I would NOT risk an experiment with is Garlic.

The growers have no obligation to sell clean bulbs. And once you have white rot..............join the club!!
Title: Re: Garlic, Help!!!!
Post by: growmore on March 01, 2005, 11:45:39
Just a thought but if the cloves have stored and dried well then would they have had any white rot .As white rot affected aliums dont usually store.
But what wizardry the growers use as in radiation etc maybe they can ..
But white rot is something You dont want on your plot as Tim says and garlic is notorious  for getting it .Jm
Title: Re: Garlic, Help!!!!
Post by: Mrs Ava on March 01, 2005, 12:03:46
I have the dreaded rot, as you know  :-[,  and altho my shallots and onions didn't store well, my garlics are still going strong, well the few that I have left.  I used the affected bulbs first way back when, however, I would not risk replanting these apparently good cloves, nor do I compost any of the waste from the garlics.
Title: Re: Garlic, Help!!!!
Post by: TULIP-23 on March 01, 2005, 12:18:17
Tim :)

Im not saying people should rush out and  buy these
things...................like I said these sort of things are Uncertified so there is always the Risk  factor.

Can also Happen with Certified Produce.........nothing is 100%

My point being along the Price difference!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Title: Re: Garlic, Help!!!!
Post by: Mothy on March 01, 2005, 23:15:59
Hi Tulip,

I think the point here is that although nothing may be 100%, once you have white rot it can last for years. Potentially preventing you from growing any of the Allium family. So for the sake of a pound here and there is it worth increasing the risk??

At the end of the day it's each to their own I guess :)

TimJ
(not to be confused with Tim, who is much more knowledgeable than me and who's advice I have duly noted in the past)
Title: Re: Garlic, Help!!!!
Post by: TULIP-23 on March 02, 2005, 11:32:02
Tim J [  to be confessed with the Other Tim ]

Who is much more knowledgable then me too....but we all have to learn ???

I do understand the situation with White Rot....having also looked it up for myself. ???

I do believe that if you recieve good help or advice
...you can also search out for yourself then ,that information.
always a chance that you will gleen a little more Knowledge Tim J.......
I totally agree with you some times it is better to spend a little more  for the right things ...absolutely.

                      Again TimJ  Thanks    Mike