Hi
I have got a quote from a builder to put a door into the back of the garage into the garden.
£650 plus VAT
That seams a little steep i was expecting more like £350?
What you think?
Cam
Does that mean that he have to make whole new opening through the wall?
We had 2 new doors done last summer, but it was case of fitting new one into existing 'hole'and that cost just about £300 per door fitted.
what work involve for getting that door on?
Not a bad price, I would not bother getting up for £350.
Is there an opening already? if not, he will be cutting out, fitting a lintel and a new frame. If thats the case, all in at £650 is bang on if that includes something like a upvc door. (im a double glazing fitter by trade BTW )
Yes its cutting a hole, lintel and fitting new frame and door.
Really though it was 2 much but if your telling me its spot on then i stand corrected.
Have really struggled to find anyone who would do the job out of 7 builders this is the only one who has sent me a quote and i had to chase for this :(
Quote from: ACE on July 22, 2012, 20:39:50
Not a bad price, I would not bother getting up for £350.
Just over £50 a week if you are a carer and do a minimum of 35 hours and have insufficient time left for any more than a small part time job if that. It works out at around £1.40 an hour max.
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Quote from: Aden Roller on July 23, 2012, 02:07:15
Quote from: ACE on July 22, 2012, 20:39:50
Not a bad price, I would not bother getting up for £350.
Just over £50 a week if you are a carer and do a minimum of 35 hours and have insufficient time left for any more than a small part time job if that. It works out at around £1.40 an hour max.
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If there are fools about that want to do that it is up to them.
Quote from: cambourne7 on July 22, 2012, 21:41:21
Yes its cutting a hole, lintel and fitting new frame and door.
Really though it was 2 much but if your telling me its spot on then i stand corrected.
Have really struggled to find anyone who would do the job out of 7 builders this is the only one who has sent me a quote and i had to chase for this :(
Hmm.. :-\ I think I would try to shop around bit more. If I would receive quote for £650 for that job..I would not be surprised about the amount but I'm sure there is some 'air' to be squeezed out from it. How much have they quoted the price of door? That's where we found the biggest differences as some added their own 'extras' on it.
Chap who did our doors measured the openings and told us what size we want, gave us brochure for local company here who does the doors and we ordered it on his account, once they were made he fetched them and fitted them in and we paid what was agreed. We knew what the door cost and what the other 'bits' cost.
We were quoted almost double price for same doors with fitting by some 'door and window' companies.
Did you only try quotes from builders?
I always get at least three quotes for work like tat. You may find there's no difference but it would at least reassure you that you aren't paying over the odds.
Cam if it were me I would be worried if I'd had to chase for a quote.
Pay him cash in hand, you will save the VAT then ;)
Cheating on VAT just means other tax payers have to foot the bill somewhere, like with insurance premiums hiked to cover the non insured and shop prices hiked to cover for shoplifting losses.
As for carers getting only £50, some have no choice ACE. There's precious little support for them either.
Quote from: Obbelix on July 24, 2012, 17:13:49
Cheating on VAT just means other tax payers have to foot the bill somewhere
A drop in the ocean compared to the landed gentry and their tax avoidance, look what Camerons father got away with. Our Dave is living on the proceeds, but it is a no-no to pay your cleaner cash in hand. You could not make it up.
So moral rules and punishments should only be applied to the rich?
Do we give up and admit defeat because we're small ion teh scheme of things oOr should we all try and set a good example and aim to improve things?
Quote from: Obbelix on July 24, 2012, 18:25:52
So moral rules and punishments should only be applied to the rich?
Do we give up and admit defeat because we're small ion teh scheme of things oOr should we all try and set a good example and aim to improve things?
No, we are the big society, all in it together. Whats good for the goose is good for the gander. If the small man is to be punished so should the rich.
Quote from: ACE on July 24, 2012, 17:32:22
Quote from: Obbelix on July 24, 2012, 17:13:49
Cheating on VAT just means other tax payers have to foot the bill somewhere
A drop in the ocean compared to the landed gentry and their tax avoidance, look what Camerons father got away with. Our Dave is living on the proceeds, but it is a no-no to pay your cleaner cash in hand. You could not make it up.
We seem to agree with each other here Ace. ;)
And the rich should lead by example...some hope!
Many bankers, business leaders and politicians seem to have few moral rules and are all too fond of telling the rest of us what to do but don't do it themselves.
Paying cash is not morally wrong and it's down to the recipient whether they declare it as taxable earnings.
Quote from: Flighty on July 24, 2012, 18:56:18
And the rich should lead by example...some hope!
Many bankers, business leaders and politicians seem to have few moral rules and are all too fond of telling the rest of us what to do but don't do it themselves.
Paying cash is not morally wrong and it's down to the recipient whether they declare it as taxable earnings.
+1
Quote from: ACE on July 23, 2012, 07:03:10
Quote from: Aden Roller on July 23, 2012, 02:07:15
Quote from: ACE on July 22, 2012, 20:39:50
Not a bad price, I would not bother getting up for £350.
Just over £50 a week if you are a carer and do a minimum of 35 hours and have insufficient time left for any more than a small part time job if that. It works out at around £1.40 an hour max.
(http://www.freesmileys.org/smileys/smiley-forum/offtopic.gif) (http://www.freesmileys.org/smileys.php) Sorry.
If there are fools about that want to do that it is up to them.
No we're not fools when it's your parent lying there you do whatever you have to. The irony was when I did this I had to pay £5 per day to travel to my mum's and back. I'd actually have been better off claiming unemployment benefits and puting mum into a home
Quote from: MissBaritone on July 25, 2012, 08:14:40
Quote from: ACE on July 23, 2012, 07:03:10
Quote from: Aden Roller on July 23, 2012, 02:07:15
Quote from: ACE on July 22, 2012, 20:39:50
Not a bad price, I would not bother getting up for £350.
Just over £50 a week if you are a carer and do a minimum of 35 hours and have insufficient time left for any more than a small part time job if that. It works out at around £1.40 an hour max.
(http://www.freesmileys.org/smileys/smiley-forum/offtopic.gif) (http://www.freesmileys.org/smileys.php) Sorry.
If there are fools about that want to do that it is up to them.
No we're not fools when it's your parent lying there you do whatever you have to. The irony was when I did this I had to pay £5 per day to travel to my mum's and back. I'd actually have been better off claiming unemployment benefits and puting mum into a home
Misunderstanding on my part thinking who ever posted was working as a carer. Sorry. :-[
Quote from: ACE on July 25, 2012, 08:59:34
Quote from: MissBaritone on July 25, 2012, 08:14:40
Quote from: ACE on July 23, 2012, 07:03:10
Quote from: Aden Roller on July 23, 2012, 02:07:15
Quote from: ACE on July 22, 2012, 20:39:50
Not a bad price, I would not bother getting up for £350.
Just over £50 a week if you are a carer and do a minimum of 35 hours and have insufficient time left for any more than a small part time job if that. It works out at around £1.40 an hour max.
(http://www.freesmileys.org/smileys/smiley-forum/offtopic.gif) (http://www.freesmileys.org/smileys.php) Sorry.
If there are fools about that want to do that it is up to them.
No we're not fools when it's your parent lying there you do whatever you have to. The irony was when I did this I had to pay £5 per day to travel to my mum's and back. I'd actually have been better off claiming unemployment benefits and putting mum into a home
Misunderstanding on my part thinking who ever posted was working as a carer. Sorry. :-[
I'm a carer Ace but it's not a job I chose. I gave mine up as I couldn't look after my parents and work full-time. I gave up my income and took early retirement losing £3k from my pensions a year for life in the process.
I'm grateful to have the carer's allowance. It doesn't go far - it helps. It wasn't a choice I had a huge amount of control over. Money isn't everything - family is. ;)
Sorry Cam we have nicked your thread, but the price ain't that bad taking into account that the builder does not just turn up, he has his overheads as well. When I price a job I have to pass on all the extras like overpriced materials, tax, vehicle running costs etc. The goverments have let the economy run riot and the customer pays,otherwise we would all go under.
Now to Aden, Although I gently mock my wife she is a very caring person, her job is assesing the amount of care the council can pay for and working out care plans for her clients, usually to be knocked back by her managers and having the wrathe of the families come down on her head when she can only allocate a pittance. She has often remarked that if the families were to go on strike the social services would be overwhelmed and would never cope. Now this is never going to happen as we all feel we have a duty to care for our loved ones. Trouble is this is just helping the government to shirk it's responsibilties. I flatly refused to take on the care of my parents years ago, just as I have told my kids to do the same for me. They done alright, as social services had to step in instead of ignoring the problem. Not an easy thing to do as I know, but stick to your guns and things will change. Some people here took the council to court, because they had opted out of the critical care package. The council lost.
Quote from: Aden Roller on July 23, 2012, 02:07:15
Quote from: ACE on July 22, 2012, 20:39:50
Not a bad price, I would not bother getting up for £350.
Just over £50 a week if you are a carer and do a minimum of 35 hours and have insufficient time left for any more than a small part time job if that. It works out at around £1.40 an hour max.
(http://www.freesmileys.org/smileys/smiley-forum/offtopic.gif) (http://www.freesmileys.org/smileys.php) Sorry.
Well that's me then!
I work part-time and am my son's sole carer! I fit in work around when he is at school. He is at his dad's down in Cornwall for 3 weeks atm...... The only 3 weeks a year I get a break! So what do I do? I work all the overtime I can get hold of!
If I need work done, I have to save hard and long!
Quote from: ACE on July 25, 2012, 12:11:12
Now to Aden, Although I gently mock my wife she is a very caring person, her job is assesing the amount of care the council can pay for and working out care plans for her clients, usually to be knocked back by her managers and having the wrathe of the families come down on her head when she can only allocate a pittance. She has often remarked that if the families were to go on strike the social services would be overwhelmed and would never cope. Now this is never going to happen as we all feel we have a duty to care for our loved ones. Trouble is this is just helping the government to shirk it's responsibilties. I flatly refused to take on the care of my parents years ago, just as I have told my kids to do the same for me. They done alright, as social services had to step in instead of ignoring the problem. Not an easy thing to do as I know, but stick to your guns and things will change. Some people here took the council to court, because they had opted out of the critical care package. The council lost.
I guess that's what we all pay our taxes for. ;)
Way off topic - No more from me on this. :)