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Title: Two halves make One
Post by: shirlton on June 13, 2012, 19:25:03
I have two half plots because there haven't been any full plots available on my site. I pay more for two halves than I would for a whole plot
I would like to hear your views on this
Title: Re: Two halves make One
Post by: saddad on June 13, 2012, 19:34:12
We charge pro rata... by each square yard...  :-X
Title: Re: Two halves make One
Post by: manicscousers on June 13, 2012, 21:05:58
Quote from: saddad on June 13, 2012, 19:34:12
We charge pro rata... by each square yard...  :-X
Same here as no two plots are alike
Title: Re: Two halves make One
Post by: artichoke on June 13, 2012, 22:06:33
I have three half plots on 2 different sites. One is incredibly cheap for some reason, the other two each cost exactly half of a full plot. The system that charges you more for two halves than for one full plot seems unfair - but is it a lot more?

I chose 2 half plots because one is higher up the hill and gets sun into the late afternoon, which I like. The other one has useful shade on a very hot day (the few we've had so far).
Title: Re: Two halves make One
Post by: kt. on June 13, 2012, 22:18:43
Quote from: shirlton on June 13, 2012, 19:25:03
I have two half plots because there haven't been any full plots available on my site. I pay more for two halves than I would for a whole plot
I would like to hear your views on this

We do the same - £24 full plot or £13 per 1/2 plot.  People who have 2 halves never want to change / move to a single full plot when offered as and when full plots become available.  They are offered before we look at those on the waiting list so cannot whinge about the rent differences.  Technically, its the same as foodstuff - its cheaper to buy 1 large pack than 2 small separate ones totalling the same size.
Title: Re: Two halves make One
Post by: BAK on June 14, 2012, 08:14:13
From my limited investigations of rents, it seems that there are 3 main methods of charging in this country

... by the square yard or metre

... in bands - plots up to 200 sq yards at x, 210-400 sq. yards at y etc

... and by making it up as you go along ::)
Title: Re: Two halves make One
Post by: shirlton on June 14, 2012, 08:48:55
Prices as follows
For 2012.....Full plot £20....half plot£15

for 2013......Full plot£30.....half plot£22-50
                   
Title: Re: Two halves make One
Post by: BarriedaleNick on June 14, 2012, 08:57:27
Eh??? That sounds unreasonable Shirl
We pay by the pole - rounded up to the nearest pole (£4/pole).
Title: Re: Two halves make One
Post by: BAK on June 14, 2012, 09:15:13
it does sound a bit odd.

However, the current cost of a half plot sounds very reasonable if you look at unwashed's recent survey.

The cost of a full plot sounds even more reasonable.
Title: Re: Two halves make One
Post by: shirlton on June 14, 2012, 09:43:41
Quote from: BAK on June 14, 2012, 09:15:13
it does sound a bit odd.

However, the current cost of a half plot sounds very reasonable if you look at unwashed's recent survey.

The cost of a full plot sounds even more reasonable.


The prices are at pensioners rate
Title: Re: Two halves make One
Post by: BAK on June 14, 2012, 09:56:21
ah!

I can only assume that some sort of banding system operates at your site?
Title: Re: Two halves make One
Post by: Squash64 on June 14, 2012, 13:53:34
These are next year's rent charges for Birmingham city council allotments, I've put this year's charges in brackets.


                          ¼                       ½                       FULL PLOT

Under 60          £40 (£20)         £50 (£30)                   £75 (£40)

Over 60            £20   (£10)         £25  (£15)                  £37.50 (£20)

The council puts allotments into 4 bands, depending on size -

Quarter plots       up to 100 sq.yds
Half plots             101 - 200 sq.yds
Full plots              201 - 400 sq.yds
Large - none on our site - 401 - 600sq.yds.


You can see from this that Shirley will be paying £50 in total for her two half plots, against £37.50 for a full size one.
Title: Re: Two halves make One
Post by: Kleftiwallah on June 14, 2012, 17:02:18

Our Council opened up six smaller than average plots

"For small families and we are sick of people taking on a full plot then giving up".   

Two very good sentiments,  so why have the rents of these 'smaller' plots crept up to the same rent of a full plot ? ? ? >:(

Cheers,     Tony.
Title: Re: Two halves make One
Post by: gwynnethmary on June 14, 2012, 17:46:20
Hartlepool: Full plot £45
                  Half plot £37
There's something not quite right there, considering the half plots are all newly marked out ones and need a lot of work to bring them up to full cultivation.
Title: Re: Two halves make One
Post by: Squash64 on June 14, 2012, 18:06:10
Quote from: gwynnethmary on June 14, 2012, 17:46:20
Hartlepool: Full plot £45
                  Half plot £37
There's something not quite right there, considering the half plots are all newly marked out ones and need a lot of work to bring them up to full cultivation.

That's worse than ours!
Title: Re: Two halves make One
Post by: shirlton on June 14, 2012, 18:18:16
I think the councils need a good shake up to get rid of the dross. Perhaps we would then get some sense out of them