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Title: How early do you dig potato trenches....
Post by: kippers garden on March 01, 2012, 18:47:10
I noticed someone at my allotment sit has already dug their trenches ready to put their potatoes in.  I was just wondering how early other people do this and then how long afterwards do you plant your potatoes?

Is this a job that can be done now ready for planting potatoes at the beg April?  Does this have any dissadvantages?

I'd love to hear your comments.
Title: Re: How early do you dig potato trenches....
Post by: PAULW on March 01, 2012, 18:49:42
First and second early's in the ground yesterday, ridged up they will start growing when the soil warms up enough, thats another job out of the way.
Title: Re: How early do you dig potato trenches....
Post by: manicscousers on March 01, 2012, 18:57:42
Spuds for the challenge already  in the ground with lady chrystl and purple majesty under cloches. The next lot are going in, planted quite deep, on saturday  ;D
Title: Re: How early do you dig potato trenches....
Post by: grannyjanny on March 01, 2012, 19:00:29
Mal, how deep will you plant them & will you earth them up?
Title: Re: How early do you dig potato trenches....
Post by: cornykev on March 01, 2012, 19:09:38
Still a tad early as we still have frosts to come, I thought about digging trenches ahead of planting years ago Kipper, but as my mate explained your just going to have dry trenches as your losing the moisture to the Sun and the Wind, makes sense to me, so I've only trenched as I go along.  ;D
Title: Re: How early do you dig potato trenches....
Post by: claybasket on March 01, 2012, 19:15:41
Our potatoes are going in tommorow ,my OH digs a deep trench and puts well rotted manure in and gives a good soaking ,then the potatoes are put in it works for us :)
Title: Re: How early do you dig potato trenches....
Post by: gazza1960 on March 01, 2012, 20:43:38
I read in todays paper that there is more wintry weather on the way and so far have not dug any trenches as I feared the frost would render them useless,im interested to read the confident answers from some and wary replies from others........ours are still in the shed,chitting under sacking in relative warmth.

Gazza   ???
Title: Re: How early do you dig potato trenches....
Post by: manicscousers on March 01, 2012, 20:53:37
Quote from: grannyjanny on March 01, 2012, 19:00:29
Mal, how deep will you plant them & will you earth them up?
Hi, Janet
Ray digs a trench, maybe 6 to 8" deep, does a hole with a bulb planter then covers the row. He earths up sometimes, sometimes we mulch. We keep fleece handy, just in case. Not got the energy to put them all in at once so we start early and do a bed a week  ;D
Title: Re: How early do you dig potato trenches....
Post by: green lily on March 01, 2012, 21:16:40
Well the sun was out and my wonder woman in so we dug 3 trenches a spit + deep, put in sifted compost, folded newspapers, soaked the lot, mixed some fertilizer with the soil ,put out 16 potato  plants[real plants] covered them up to their noses and tonight the fleece has been rolled over. Hopefully some rain at the weekend would help to soak the lot in as water is scarce around here.
I plant deep and cover so I'm not really worried about the weather. If snows coming I shall put cardboard under the fleece!
I'd dig as you get opportunity and plant. Traditional spud planting was Good Friday which can be as early as mid-March. Earlies and Mains all went in on the only long weekend off for a working man.
Title: Re: How early do you dig potato trenches....
Post by: grannyjanny on March 01, 2012, 21:18:39
Thanks Mal. I think we'll plant & mulch ;D. Good luck with yours ;D.
Title: Re: How early do you dig potato trenches....
Post by: antipodes on March 02, 2012, 11:27:33
On my lonesome I couldn't dig trenches so I just stick in the spade really deep,  spud behind the spade, wiggle till it falls down behind it and pull spade out. Earth up as they start to appear. Save my energy for weeding :)
Title: Re: How early do you dig potato trenches....
Post by: bridgehouse on March 02, 2012, 12:12:08


I loved that , I was just wondering how I would manage to plant the spuds this year,I have been ill, and now I have back problems to . so I will try your method thanks for that.
   June.
Title: Re: How early do you dig potato trenches....
Post by: PAULW on March 02, 2012, 13:32:49
Quote from: gazza1960 on March 01, 2012, 20:43:38
I read in todays paper that there is more wintry weather on the way and so far have not dug any trenches as I feared the frost would render them useless,im interested to read the confident answers from some and wary replies from others........ours are still in the shed,chitting under sacking in relative warmth.

Gazza   ???

Gazza look how many volenteers come up every spring after being in the ground all winter a nice blanket of soil over the top will keep them warm.
Title: Re: How early do you dig potato trenches....
Post by: louise stella on March 02, 2012, 14:10:51
I bought a digginh hoe last year and it's brilliant!  I can't wait to use it to plant my spuds this year - it will make it so much easier - and the earthing up!
Title: Re: How early do you dig potato trenches....
Post by: antipodes on March 02, 2012, 17:02:58
@bridgehouse
I get my little one to help me (one of the rare occasions!) I plant the shovel, push it well forward and she sticks the spud down behind it! I wiggle teh shovel a bit till the spud has dropped down. Then pull it out and the spud generally drops into the earth.  Maybe not planted as deep as in big trenches but it works all right for me, once you earth up and mulch  :)
Title: Re: How early do you dig potato trenches....
Post by: strawberry1 on March 02, 2012, 17:23:24
lady christi, charlotte and kestrel all went in today. I have a wolf ridger and it worked brilliantly, I then positioned the spuds and dug a hole in the trench for each one, crumbling fine soil over to a depth of about 3-4 inches. I could be doing with a strong long handled bulb planter and then I wouldn`t have to bend at all. I read that spuds don`t need chitting, so I wouldn`t need to be as careful as I am now

Soil is warm in somerset, where I live and I`ll be getting the fleece out soon, just in case, but it is worth the risk
Title: Re: How early do you dig potato trenches....
Post by: cobnut on March 04, 2012, 15:27:14
I put some spuds in yesterday in the warm weather we had .. today it's snowing!! Are they going to be ruined?
Title: Re: How early do you dig potato trenches....
Post by: Kleftiwallah on March 04, 2012, 15:33:34

I think people are earthing up their spuds far too early.  There is a finite amount of food in a spud and the plant needs to have the sun on its leaves to convert into sugars for growth.  Earth up your newly planted spuds too early and there is a slim chance the spuds will run out of momentum before the leaves break through the 'unnaturally' deep soil.

Allow your spuds to 'break cover first and allow their leaves to see the sun then earth up to just below those leaves.  You may need to earth up more than once, but this will give you a more healthy spud plant.   

That's my Sunday morning lecture.  .  .  . :D     Cheers,    Tony.
Title: Re: How early do you dig potato trenches....
Post by: Pescador on March 04, 2012, 17:10:26
I never dig a trench just push spade in, plant behind it. Base of seed is 9'' deep, then earth up as the shoot develops.
Title: Re: How early do you dig potato trenches....
Post by: saddad on March 04, 2012, 17:31:46
Quote from: cobnut on March 04, 2012, 15:27:14
I put some spuds in yesterday in the warm weather we had .. today it's snowing!! Are they going to be ruined?
No... the snow will be long gone before they emerge...  :)
Title: Re: How early do you dig potato trenches....
Post by: cornykev on March 04, 2012, 18:43:47
But will the frosts.  ???
Title: Re: How early do you dig potato trenches....
Post by: saddad on March 04, 2012, 18:50:58
Possibly not... but an earthing up or a bit of fleece should tide them over..  :-X
Title: Re: How early do you dig potato trenches....
Post by: PeterVV on March 04, 2012, 21:34:12
My wife ordered my spuds a s a christmas present, and unfortunately they arrived two weeks before Christmas!, I had them chitting in my garage, but as it is damp, and temperatures fell below freezing a few times, all my earlies died, so I have only just bought replacements, hoping to get them in in a week to a fortnight, not a lot of time to get them chitted!
Title: Re: How early do you dig potato trenches....
Post by: Digeroo on March 05, 2012, 00:20:00
I dug some of my tatty trenches in the autumn so all I need to do is to throw in some of the chitted spuds.  I have put in a few already for the challenge, and will put in some more this week.  If the leaves start to show and there is a frost forecast you can just earth them up or throw over some plastic or fleece. 

I thought that easter was the time for planting spuds.  Interesting to hear people are doing it now.  As you say the volunteers seem to know what they are about and pop up well enough.  Even with the -16 last winter they were ok under the soil.

Title: Re: How early do you dig potato trenches....
Post by: lin on March 09, 2012, 23:43:12
Funny how we all have our own "tried and tested" ways of doing this. I was a complete newbie to plots 10 years ago and I started by digging trenches through March at intervals to save my back instead of doing all the digging at once.
Then I put straw in the bottom of the trench and just before the last week in March I put in fertilizer and cover with a fine layer of earth. Then end of March early April bed the spuds in nice warmish, fertilised straw, water well and cover.

I have never failed with my spuds and so will continue the same way. When my back says no, might try just dropping a spud in a hole and see what happens, I know a few of the older guys on our plot do that and still get good results, Lin
Title: Re: How early do you dig potato trenches....
Post by: Robert_Brenchley on March 10, 2012, 11:22:48
You put a seed or a tuber in a hole and it grows. I've a sneaking suspicion that half of what we do is more to make us feel good than anything.