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Title: wine kit for xmas
Post by: flitwickone on December 30, 2011, 13:41:10
hi all
hope you are all well

ive been given a kit for xmas it consists of

steriliser
2 x 5 litre fermentaion bins
8inch sppon
syphon
2x airlocks
12 in thermometer(spirit)
trial jar
170mm hydrometer
some yeast
and a can of  red wine enricher 245g

i have no instructions so can anyone enlighten me on what i am supposed to do 

thx
Title: Re: wine kit for xmas
Post by: OllieC on December 30, 2011, 13:48:12
You have most of the hardware there - but you need a few more things to get going. I'd suggest trying one kit and one fruit wine, or maybe even 2 kits to get you started. You could do a lot worse than getting a couple of Beaverdale 1gal kits on the go.

Alternatively, if you Google "Wurzel's Orange Wine" you will find the staple drink of our household these days.
Title: Re: wine kit for xmas
Post by: BarriedaleNick on December 30, 2011, 13:54:08
I can recommend these kits
http://www.amazon.co.uk/Home-Brew-Wine-Making-Connoisseur/dp/B002ID2DQ6/ref=sr_1_2?s=kitchen&ie=UTF8&qid=1325253247&sr=1-2

I do the 25 litre versions but they both take about a month to finish - 6 bottles don't last long here!
The kits have clear simple instructions and you seems to have the rest of the kit..

If you want to make your own wines from scratch I would try a few kits first - just to get used to idea.
Title: Re: wine kit for xmas
Post by: macmac on December 30, 2011, 14:17:43
http://www.the-online-homebrew-company.co.uk/shop/catalog/product_info.php?cPath=51_74&products_id=492

We buy this one on a regular basis and also the Merlot the results are pretty good
we've made Ollies "wurzels orange wine" and it's pretty powerful :o
Title: Re: wine kit for xmas
Post by: flitwickone on December 30, 2011, 14:45:27
one last question and its probably a stupid one if i have two 5 litre containers that means i could do two kits at once ? if so then thats what i will do

Title: Re: wine kit for xmas
Post by: OllieC on December 30, 2011, 15:07:49
In general, most things in the world of home brewing are either 5 litre (1gal) or 25 litre (5gal), so yes, 2 small kits would be a good start to finding out what works for you & what kits you like.

Please ask away & post your progress, it would be nice to have more on home brewing here!

Interesting to see that you've done WOW Macmac - ours comes out at 16%! (where's the "bleeding eyes" smiley?!)
Title: Re: wine kit for xmas
Post by: macmac on December 30, 2011, 15:12:55
you'll need another 5 litre to rack off each one so 3  if you want to do 2 lots.
We rack into the spare then clean the empty and rack 2nd into that .
I've just read that and it's confusing  ???
Basically 3 bins 1,2,3,
1&2 -ferment wine,when done rack bin 1 into bin 3.                                                               clean bin 1 and rack bin 2 into bin 1
still sounds confusing  :o
Title: Re: wine kit for xmas
Post by: macmac on December 30, 2011, 15:13:57
Quote from: OllieC on December 30, 2011, 15:07:49
In general, most things in the world of home brewing are either 5 litre (1gal) or 25 litre (5gal), so yes, 2 small kits would be a good start to finding out what works for you & what kits you like.

Please ask away & post your progress, it would be nice to have more on home brewing here!

Interesting to see that you've done WOW Macmac - ours comes out at 16%! (where's the "bleeding eyes" smiley?!)
;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: wine kit for xmas
Post by: OllieC on December 30, 2011, 15:14:59
Quote from: macmac on December 30, 2011, 15:12:55
you'll need another 5 litre to rack off each one so 3  if you want to do 2 lots.

Oh yeah, the racking, good point!
Title: Re: wine kit for xmas
Post by: flitwickone on December 30, 2011, 15:23:40
ok i will get another bin   ;D  so to recap  8)  bin 1 and 2 ferment the brew and at the right stage i rack bin 1 into bin 3 wash and steralize bin one and rack bin 2 into the now clean bin 1

right im off to get the kits will keep you posted http://;d
Title: Re: wine kit for xmas
Post by: katynewbie on December 30, 2011, 15:52:11
See, now here's the thing, a new to wine making person will struggle with terms like "rack" Is that where you siphon off some liquid into a bottle?

Thanks..
Title: Re: wine kit for xmas
Post by: BarriedaleNick on December 30, 2011, 15:55:01
I leave a two week gap before starting the second one off - that way there is normally one fermenting and one clearing down.
My kits suggest two rackings off..  
One after about 8-10 days after primary fermentation - then another after 20 ish days after all fermentation is finished.  Spare bins are always useful!

I'm off to check out Ollie's "wurzels orange wine" - if it turns out like my Elderflower Champers then..... "hic!"

Rack just means moving from one vessel to another.  Normally done once fermentation is complete - you take the wine off the sediment each time..
Title: Re: wine kit for xmas
Post by: macmac on December 30, 2011, 23:07:00
Quote from: katynewbie on December 30, 2011, 15:52:11
See, now here's the thing, a new to wine making person will struggle with terms like "rack" Is that where you siphon off some liquid into a bottle?

Thanks..
siphon off a bin or demi into a bin or demi  :)
Title: Re: wine kit for xmas
Post by: queenbee on December 30, 2011, 23:20:48
Never mind wine kits, a friend of mine has managed to find a STILL on a New Zealand website and he received it on Xmas eve. It makes a 70 proof spirit within hours, the sachets included are Whisky, Gin, Vodka and Brandy, It is legal in NZ but I am not too sure about the UK, he reckons that it will cost about 80p per bottle. It looks like a large electric kettle and I am just waiting for his first results. He bought it for 150 pounds. Has anyone else had experience of these.
Title: Re: wine kit for xmas
Post by: flitwickone on December 31, 2011, 08:42:15
wow where can i buy that from in NZ  :o
Title: Re: wine kit for xmas
Post by: OllieC on December 31, 2011, 09:35:01
The Orange wine recipe gives you bottles of pleasant tasting 16% wine at around 90p a bottle (using good juice - you could do it for 50p if you care less about the taste). To me, the risks of distilling are too great just to make something that needs diluting again.

The main risks are:
1) It's illegal
2) Blowing yourself up like these guys - http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-lincolnshire-16083900
3) Going blind or killing yourself like these guys - http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2011/dec/15/illegal-alcohol-india-kills-100?newsfeed=true
Title: Re: wine kit for xmas
Post by: Melbourne12 on December 31, 2011, 09:43:19
I agree with OllieC.  In the days when we made our own wine, I considered distillation, but the risks to your health are quite frightening.  And it is of course illegal in the UK to distil alcohol, although it's perfectly legal to own the equipment.

Apparently it is legal in New Zealand, though.  http://www.brewersbarn.com/index.php (http://www.brewersbarn.com/index.php) supplies stills and other equipment.  Worth a read, as is http://www.homedistiller.org/ (http://www.homedistiller.org/)
Title: Re: wine kit for xmas
Post by: Stopp on January 01, 2012, 04:01:51
What a great gift .... I'd love this .... I've already made my own wine with these kits and can purchase yeast, sterilser, campden tablets from my local Tesco so I'm having fun experimenting with wine making. Just remember to sterilise, sterilise and then sterilise again. 

Happy wine/beer making in 2012 xxx
Title: Re: wine kit for xmas
Post by: flitwickone on January 02, 2012, 13:39:56
just a quick update ive been into wilkinsons and got two kits  ;D  here goes will keep u all up dated
Title: Re: wine kit for xmas
Post by: OllieC on January 02, 2012, 13:50:33
Which kits did you get?
Title: Re: wine kit for xmas
Post by: flitwickone on January 02, 2012, 15:51:30
the red chardonnay kits 8 quid each  so one is now in the airing cupboard and the second lot will go in in ten days time

operation "Skullpopper" has commenced
fingers crossed
Title: Re: wine kit for xmas
Post by: flitwickone on January 09, 2012, 20:20:03
i dont see any bubbles coming trough the airlockanymore  is this normal or have i gone wrong somewhere its day eight
Title: Re: wine kit for xmas
Post by: lottie lou on January 09, 2012, 20:45:30
Could be your airing cupboard was a bit too warm.  Move it to somewhere cooler and and black poly bag over it and then just leave it till its cleared.
Title: Re: wine kit for xmas
Post by: OllieC on January 09, 2012, 20:50:55
That's fairly quick but not impossible. Did you take the SG at the start & have you taken it now?
Title: Re: wine kit for xmas
Post by: flitwickone on January 10, 2012, 18:35:39
no im yet to add the clearing solution do i take the Sg before i add that ?
Title: Re: wine kit for xmas
Post by: OllieC on January 10, 2012, 18:48:18
I would.
Title: Re: wine kit for xmas
Post by: lottie lou on January 10, 2012, 19:05:12
Just leave it alone....I do.  Don't bother to rack off either.  If you are thirsty just buy yourself a bottle of plonk from supermarket to be getting on with.
Title: Re: wine kit for xmas
Post by: flitwickone on January 10, 2012, 19:08:56
lol ive just floated the hydrometer and the top green part is the only part floating above the wine  ita a reading of  0.990
Title: Re: wine kit for xmas
Post by: OllieC on January 10, 2012, 19:25:29
Good, assuming your Hydrometer is accurate (I have 3, two of them aren't!) then that's finished. One tip - it is claimed by many brewers who are better & more experienced than me that you get false readings by floating it in the FV - they say you must use a trial jar. You make your own decision but just so you know!
Title: Re: wine kit for xmas
Post by: flitwickone on January 10, 2012, 20:10:45
i have a long type thingy thats narrow that came with the kit and i was told to use the hydrometer in that which i did 3 times so on sat urday i will use the finings is that right by the way whats a FV
Title: Re: wine kit for xmas
Post by: OllieC on January 10, 2012, 20:15:26
soz, FV=Fermenting Vessel. Sounds like you've done a good job - looking forward to the tasting notes!
Title: Re: wine kit for xmas
Post by: flitwickone on January 10, 2012, 20:46:22
lol i will let you know Hic Hic
Title: Re: wine kit for xmas
Post by: flitwickone on January 25, 2012, 14:40:56
wow it dont half taste good im very chuffed just had a glass of the red and its bought a glow to my cheeks  ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D

10 days till the next galloon is ready

also bought two 25 litre demijohns for 12 quid so weekend they will get started this brewing lark is good real good  ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: wine kit for xmas
Post by: macmac on February 13, 2012, 12:57:14
Quote from: macmac on December 30, 2011, 14:17:43
http://www.the-online-homebrew-company.co.uk/shop/catalog/product_info.php?cPath=51_74&products_id=492

We buy this one on a regular basis and also the Merlot the results are pretty good
we've made Ollies "wurzels orange wine" and it's pretty powerful :o
Just to add a warning I and it seems many others are experiencing problems with this company now.An order placed and paid for 10th Jan still hasn't been dispatched.I wouldn't want anyone else to deal with them on my reccomendation :(
Title: Re: wine kit for xmas
Post by: BarriedaleNick on February 13, 2012, 13:38:16
We had issues with this company a while back - they did deliver in the end but I could not reccommend either..
Title: Re: wine kit for xmas
Post by: macmac on February 13, 2012, 15:36:11
Our first orders with them were good and their prices very good ,however now they seem to be offering huge promotional price cuts but many people have posted that they aren't recieving goods.I'm just hoping ours arrives eventually.
Title: Re: wine kit for xmas
Post by: flitwickone on February 13, 2012, 20:58:59
hi have just put another 5 gallons of red on i gallon of white and a black cherry wine
im having great fun  ;D

next will be worzels wine