what is price of a turkey in the uk?
i am asking out curiosity being from usa
A 5kg (that's 11lbs to you) oven-ready free-range bronze turkey from my local turkey farm is £50 delivered. It's around the same price in M&S but without delivery. How much down your way?
How big? Frozen, fresh or organic. Plain, basted or stuffed. Sliced, minced or whole.
The possibilities are nearly endless.
Supermarket Fresh medium sized 4.59 kg £4.14 per kilo. I leave you to convert to $ and pounds and ounces. If you want it to taste of anything then the free range direct from a farm is a better though more expensive option.
My frozen "bronze" turkey weighing approx 11lbs cost £20.
frozen turkey 14 lbs/6.35kg is $0.59/£.35 per lb or which is about $8.26/ £4.14 not counting tax. on sale before thanksgiving prices go as low as $0.39 per lb
Quoted £45.00 for a small Turkey at the farm that we buy our meat from, but bought a frozen 'Bronze' 2.8kg for £10.00, Merry Christmas, don't eat to much, :)
£.35 per lb ?
Are you sure this is not a loss leader price to entire you into the store. The world price of animal feeds is almost identical. I just do not think it is possible to produce turkey at this price. I hate to think what they have been fed on.
One year I got a free frozen turkey when I spent £100.
When the Bird Flu stuck is was amazing that the price of chickens dropped like a stone the previous week.
Cheapest I have found is £3.04 per kg. for a 7.9 kg frozen. No tax here on most cold food. But these are from Tesco and supposed to be half price but are almost exactly the same price as ASDA without the special offer.
American meat farmers are far more cagey ('scuse the pun) about letting cameras or reporters near their factories than our farmers. Having seen some footage of US pork production, I think even our worst (legal) conditions are much better than a lot of American meat production - can't see why it would be any different for turkeys.
Digeroo probable so.
turkeys are not grown in cages.
if really one ready cheap
i could get a 10 lb bird for £3.00 cost being petrol and bird shot
we have wild turkeys in general area if know where to hunt for them
I think this footage shows how important animal welfare is - filmed in West Virginia.
http://youtu.be/4yfS9ZeJiY4
(Warning - contains footage of considerable animal cruelty)
How cruel is this? Turkeys in tiny cages. Well, except the third one, which was enjoying a temporary respite whilst posing for pictures.
Taken at the Federation of Poultry Clubs Championship Show earlier today.
At least they won't be killed and eaten for Christmas. But I suppose the risk of being stomped on by an animal rights activism film crew is an ever-present one. :(
Oh dear Ollie, I actually had to stop watching that part way through and I am pretty tough (I thought!). :'(
We always buy from the farmer for our meat at either the farm shop or the farmers market, in the hope that we are paying for higher welfare standards and better quality. Taste is far superior. I'm happy to be frugal in other ways to enable us to afford to pay the premium, and eat lots of veggies and veggy meals too.
I haven't brought myself to watch the film Ollie. As for the turkeys at the Poultry show, that is only for a day, and my experience of poultry show is that the birds look quite happy and watch what's going on with interest. (B*****y noisy places though ;D)
My turkey is being plucked as we speak !! Friends have reared about 15 turkeys in their large garden and have sold them them off at a loss ! The cost of feeding them has far outweighed the prices they are charging them but they are happy knowing that they had a good life before ending up on a dinner plate.
They are going to raise geese next year, can't wait...........
Quote from: pumpkinlover on December 18, 2011, 19:09:02
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I haven't brought myself to watch the film Ollie. As for the turkeys at the Poultry show, that is only for a day, and my experience of poultry show is that the birds look quite happy and watch what's going on with interest. (B*****y noisy places though ;D)
I wasn't being serious about the poultry show, although you do see one of two birds becoming distressed.
These faked-up films annoy me, though. There's plenty to complain about intensive farming standards. Stocking densities are too high, the birds are deprived of a natural environment, and (worst of all to my mind) they are bred to be monsters - either monstrous egg producers or monstrous growers.
Yet we have to pretend that "cruelty" means farmers and their employees spending their valuable time tormenting the creatures for entertainment. The people on the films are never pursued and prosecuted. Why? Animal rights people are normally the most ferocious in wreaking vengeance on those they dislike, including deadly personal attacks. You'd think that simple farmworkers would be, to coin a phrase, sitting ducks. The scenes of torture are simply enacted by the activists themselves. And it's unacceptable.
There are instances of cruelty that are not faked. Like anything in life, some humans are not "wired up right" and think it droll to impose suffering.
Gosh ! It's like the footage from Nazi concentration camps. Guys you're driving me closer to being vegetarian. What right do we have to kill ? And this is infinitely worse. We absolutely have no right to imprison living creatures and abuse them. (aka some kinds of farming).
Mel if you know that it is fabricated by animal rights activists can you explain?
If not perhaps we have to face up to our own inhumanity?
Quote from: grawrc on December 18, 2011, 20:03:04
...Mel if you know that it is fabricated by animal rights activists can you explain?
If not perhaps we have to face up to our own inhumanity?
Probably not appropriate in "Recipes". I'll post in "Watershed".
I could only watch a few seconds of the clip but the bit I saw was horrific.
As a vegetarian, the thought of eating birds, animals and fish is, to me, quite alien.
My husband, two sons and their families are all vegetarian too which makes family meals very easy. If I have meat-eating visitors I cook vegetarian for them too, not in the hope of trying to convert them but because the smell of meat cooking would turn my stomach.
could get back on subject without the animal treatment or vegetarian rants.
you don't want turkey in there natural environment.
wild turkeys can be vicious nasty birds, they have been known to attack humans and other animals. don't believe me type" turkey attack" into youtube
We all eat meat here Betty... but when we have veggie friends round we cook veggie... it does us no harm to go meat free once in a while.. :-X
Quote from: Melbourne12 on December 18, 2011, 20:51:39
Quote from: grawrc on December 18, 2011, 20:03:04
...Mel if you know that it is fabricated by animal rights activists can you explain?
If not perhaps we have to face up to our own inhumanity?
Yes please!
Probably not appropriate in "Recipes". I'll post in "Watershed".
Quotewild turkeys can be vicious nasty birds
This is off topic as well. ;D
Wild turkeys in very short supply here in the uk as far as I know.
Melbourne12
Quotethe birds are deprived of a natural environment, and (worst of all to my mind) they are bred to be monsters - either monstrous egg producers or monstrous growers.
turkey in nature attack mode
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QJSGIt-4MXE&feature=related
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5nBw4lP8bwg
no need breed monsters
Quote from: plainleaf on December 19, 2011, 01:47:01
Melbourne12 Quotethe birds are deprived of a natural environment, and (worst of all to my mind) they are bred to be monsters - either monstrous egg producers or monstrous growers.
turkey in nature attack mode
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QJSGIt-4MXE&feature=related
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5nBw4lP8bwg
no need breed monsters
Last year, on our motorbike tour, we stopped off for our annual pilgrimage to Cabela's. I was seriously tempted by a T-shirt with a silhouette of a wild turkey and the legend, "Droppin' the hammer on thunder chickens".
Perhaps fortunately they didn't have it in my size. ;D
Which one of the reasons we're having organic lamb from up the road. I'd have to rear my own turkey to be happy although I've now been told a local farmer in the village does do a few for Christmas but on the whole IMO its over rated. I'd rather have a pheasant or duck even a rabbit thats had a bit of a run-around.
i seen blind taste tests of turkeys cooked the same way.
the tasters could not tell organic from free range and or conventional grown
apart.
Quote from: plainleaf on December 22, 2011, 19:52:17
i seen blind taste tests of turkeys cooked the same way.
the tasters could not tell organic from free range and or conventional grown
apart.
Maybe the tasters couldn't tell the difference, but I bet the turkeys could.
no one cares what turkeys think since they the turkeys are dead.
We are doing christmas dinner for 10. Our turkey is free as brother-in-law is providing it as his contribution to the meal. ;)
Quote from: plainleaf on December 22, 2011, 20:08:10
no one cares what turkeys think since they the turkeys are dead.
How about while they were alive?
since you don't eat meat squash64 it not your concern. since i doubt speak turkey they not likely to tell you.
Quote from: plainleaf on December 25, 2011, 23:01:43
since you don't eat meat squash64 it not your concern.
I don't understand this point of view. Whether we do or do not eat meat, animal welfare is (or should be) all our concern.
galina concern is matter of prospective vegetarians and animal rights nuts do it to make meat eaters feel guilty. I don't comment on there torture of plants which have been show to feel pain. all animals take life to gain food in most case humans are more humane. guess no one here has watched to family cat or dog kill a mouse. I have and all human do in raising animal for food is more humane then watching a cat. as i said many years ago
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the meat eaters are afraid the vegetarian are trying to convert them and
the vegetarian are scared of the meat eaters will try to eat them.